From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 15 03:04:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6974F16A4CE; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 03:04:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A31543D5C; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 03:04:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (net4801-2 [192.168.254.1]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FC14AEF5; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 04:00:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 04:00:14 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: Steve Ireland Message-ID: <20050215030014.GA53931@fw.farid-hajji.net> References: <420C2C33.4020607@black-star.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <420C2C33.4020607@black-star.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please, a little sanity about the logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 03:04:23 -0000 On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 10:53:23PM -0500, Steve Ireland wrote: > This leads to a suggestion others have already made, a splitting > of FBSD into hobbyist and professional branches. The hobbyists > keep Beastie, the .org site, and the non-profit status. The > professionals get the new logo, the .com site, and pay for use > and support (perhaps an annual subscription?). Quite frankly, I don't understand the current push for a "commercial-friendly" logo on behalf of the FreeBSD Project. There have always been a few companies that provided a commercial version on CDs, and nobody would have any objections that these companies use their own logos to push their own version (or an unmodified version) of FreeBSD into the enterprise. This is similar to SuSE, RedHat and others who use their own logos to distribute the one and only Linux kernel and an assorted set of libraries and utilities. "Linux" itself doesn't have a logo either (if we followed the party line that Tux and Beastie were mascots and not logos). The FreeBSD Project should IMHO remain vendor neutral, and stick to code development. There's absolutely no need to commercialize anything; much less need for any kind of logo. The project did very well without a logo (and with Beastie), and there's no reason to have one now, just to appease those zealots (as you've pointed out). Just leave this to the vendors. > Steve Ireland Cheers, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/