From nobody Thu Jan 6 10:25:08 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10931927ABE for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2022 10:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joerg@bec.de) Received: from relay11.mail.gandi.net (relay11.mail.gandi.net [217.70.178.231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4JV2YB5CGsz3Qy4 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2022 10:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joerg@bec.de) Received: (Authenticated sender: joerg@bec.de) by relay11.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A8B30100008 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2022 10:25:10 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 11:25:08 +0100 From: Joerg Sonnenberger To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.9 points Re: 7.0 points 5.1 points Re: Call for Foundation-supported Project Ideas Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <864k6qj6x6.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> <86zgoihs64.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4JV2YB5CGsz3Qy4 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of joerg@bec.de has no SPF policy when checking 217.70.178.231) smtp.mailfrom=joerg@bec.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.20 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[joerg]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bec.de]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29169, ipnet:217.70.176.0/20, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[217.70.178.231:from] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 11:22:39AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > Why bother. Load the kms drm drivers. The suspend/resume code is in those > drivers. They work console, X11 and wayland, more or less. It's an > absolutely > insane idea to spend limited funds on the crazy ideas presented in this > thread. > They are known to be flakey, unreliable or technically just not possible. The main problem is that modern VGA devices often only have just enough VESA BIOS support to give Windows a generic framebuffer as fallback. Otherwise, I don't think it is as flakey. All that said, spending funds on it would certainly be misdirected. Joerg