From owner-freebsd-arch Sun Jul 9 17:38:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from cypherpunks.ai (cypherpunks.ai [209.88.68.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BD837C16B for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 17:38:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeroen@vangelderen.org) Received: from vangelderen.org (grolsch.ai [209.88.68.214]) by cypherpunks.ai (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD144D; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 20:38:24 -0400 (AST) Message-ID: <39691B00.F3EF8F36@vangelderen.org> Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 20:38:24 -0400 From: "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Adam , arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: making the snoop device loadable. References: <20000709120705.Q25571@fw.wintelcom.net> <20000709131350.S25571@fw.wintelcom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > * Adam [000709 12:36] wrote: > > > > Why did it exist from FreeBSD-WhoKnowsWhen until 1999? I'd like to use X > > via startx and not xdm too. I dont recall FreeBSD allowing X to start > > after securelevel is > 0 because it accesses /dev/mem. If it does now, > > I'll shut up. I tried searching the mail archives for discussions about > > why NO_LKM is bad but couldn't find anything. Could you help me find a > > discussion on it or tell me why disabling kernel modules is *not* > > security? Assuming I'd notice a reboot and would consequently whup some > > butt if someone did. > > If I had root and wasn't such a nice guy (*grin*) you wouldn't > know which way was up if I took the time to do so. But you don't and guys like you are obviously not in Adam's threat model. > Please properly secure your box. Please don't dicate other people what to do. Cheers, Jeroen -- Jeroen C. van Gelderen o _ _ _ jeroen@vangelderen.org _o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) _< \_ _>(_) (_)/<_ \_| \ _|/' \/ (_)>(_) (_) (_) (_) (_)' _\o_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message