From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 09:41:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DAD437B401 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3F443F93 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:41:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6HGf3ju047409; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:41:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6HGf24j047408; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:41:02 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Luigi Rizzo Message-ID: <20030717164102.GA47198@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030717080805.GA98878@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030717033620.B51802@xorpc.icir.org> <200307170906.51902.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20030717160942.GB46923@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030717091700.B2145@xorpc.icir.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030717091700.B2145@xorpc.icir.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Things to remove from /rescue X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:41:05 -0000 On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 09:17:00AM -0700, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > whatever it is, certainly the purpose is not to show how good > a sysadmin is in using a knife's blade as a screwdriver and a fork > and a spoon. Heck, even swiss army knives have these extra > tools. > > I think that if something in /rescue can make the task faster > and less error prone, removing it to save 10-50k of disk space > would be a big mistake. You must not have seen my other email that listed other things than just disk space. If I did need to get to the Internet to get bits, what does ipfw do for me that "sysctl net.inet.ip.fw.enable=0" doesn't? If I'm repairing /, I'm not running services for someone to break into -- not to mention your system is so FUBAR if you're repairing /, maybe the attacker would take pity on you and fix things for you (for the simple price of storing some juarez for him). ;-) -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)