From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat Apr 23 03:41:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686CAB1869C for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 03:41:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ca) Received: from orthanc.ca (orthanc.ca [IPv6:2607:f2f8:abf8::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "orthanc.ca", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X1" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 519101272; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 03:41:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ca) Received: from minnie ([72.143.234.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by orthanc.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u3N3fBqa022904 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 22 Apr 2016 20:41:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ca) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 20:41:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Lyndon Nerenberg X-X-Sender: lyndon@minnie.bitsea.ca To: Glen Barber cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why 100 packages are evil In-Reply-To: <20160423032138.GB1804@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <76093.1461096570@critter.freebsd.dk> <5716AD65.8070007@shrew.net> <5716FA70.4080604@freebsd.org> <57170E5D.1090701@freebsd.org> <5524F499-5042-407E-9180-43D15A53F3F0@FreeBSD.org> <7621BDAB-A409-456A-A3F1-A6CD9B371DBC@rdsor.ro> <20160420094806.GJ6614@zxy.spb.ru> <7c84f388-21dc-419f-70ce-c5369e294dab@freebsd.org> <20160423032138.GB1804@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (OSX 1167 2008-08-23) Organization: The Frobozz Magic Homing Pigeon Company MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 03:41:13 -0000 > Same as it is now for releases. Packages will be available for SAs/ENs. > There is no intention to change this model. I get that. But the dependency base will be huge. Right now I can count on a very limited set of dependencies for anything I ship as a 3rd party package. Doing that for n>100 packages gets to be troubling. I know it can be done, but for a small company like the one I work for, it quickly becomes impractical.