From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 18:26:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456A6106564A for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:26:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC518FC0C for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:26:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B9D33E808D1; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:26:14 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Dave Message-ID: <20110923182614.GC31222@thought.org> References: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20110923013119.GA8424@thought.org> <000b01cc799b$3abfec90$b03fc5b0$@on.ca> <4E7C6D3D.1196.2C8EDE72@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E7C6D3D.1196.2C8EDE72@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... [ now trending #OT ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:26:15 -0000 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:27:57PM +0100, Dave wrote: > Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:27:57 +0100 > From: Dave > Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... [ now trending #OT ] > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.61) > > From: "Matt Emmerton" > > > > > > > > but i've been doing this for a while, and > > > until i was away for five days, everything had been going > > > fine for over a month. oh:: one power-out. the UPS saved > > > the server, but everything else needed to be reinitialized. > > > > A lesson that I learned many years ago - if you can afford a "big" UPS > > for your servers, you can afford a "little" one for your telco/network > > equipment. > > > > I'm using some PoE kit to power the router remotely down it's LAN cable, > that in turn run's from the protected supply from the UPS. Said UPS also > powers the main network switch, as well as my own LAN server (f'BSD > based, to stay vaguely on toppic!) Plus two other PC's and a NAS device. > > It'll hold that lot up, for over 20 minutes when the lights go out (the > longest unscheduled outage so far.) It's also configured to NOT come > back, if it runs down and cuts out. I'll do that manually if needed. > (Not so far.) I never did get the BSD port of APCUPSD to work correctly. > > All works well. Also, easy to do a router "Hard" restart, without going > to the router itself. And if it does all die, it fails safe. > > Regards. > > Dave B. see, if i had help at =your= level of expertise, i'd be fine. 4 days in the icu is still ,messing me up a bit, but i grok most of what you're saying to matt. Oh, and for those who suggested i hire somebody instead of relying on volunteers:: while there is a seattle linux group, gslug, i know 0.0 people who have a clue about BSD. i've asked around--the senior techs at the telco have no clue when i [or someone who can speak] mentioned 'unix'. i've tried to find some students at the u/washington. zip. linux, a few people mumble, 'yes, ive heard of that.' but unix, or berkeley unix , or sun unix. {gawk: Orifice unix, rather} Zero. BTW, ive not had time nor savvy to get the APC UPS Port installed. besides, right now, there in only one 2009 dell 2-cpu on the battery. it has saved state twice. but i =still= had to get down and crawl around with flashlight in teeth and power off stuff. -no, no 'poor gary'; that's just the bare facts. -g > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org