From owner-svn-src-stable-11@freebsd.org Thu Mar 15 16:31:49 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-stable-11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CF5F5F250 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:31:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x243.google.com (mail-wm0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C21526A131 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:31:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x243.google.com with SMTP id q83so11688297wme.5 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 09:31:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=Mx1qOvA1P73kXtoOC5mQE+whGK/Ju2xANEJDSIOi1bs=; b=D4F8ZWvJBTzyUVxK6HTSF1Y2+DEhnFH52o1XBZWqd+u2DlnBXJsKWD7PDaOsWvwhK2 4wu8e42HfybrcLcogq2tsAKn3WfLMM4CGV/OG0L0buQbdd9EXZMNh1u77m/wkmq9/qUz ce1Z1bw7TLJ+qEjWKXmG2vluByQsytJ0YA4D1W5bOmfrf8XUTBaxLoW95+tu8eybiS5b +KaDKPcBZRCYLbrMGG4alBMUqTfDc8iY/aZtqnqJzlDufG9DEAy/ggppQIeyMAMYzNGs 60cYwEbHtjFdA/qXvuSir1a9h1JBEQpoTh/XZBFroLZ9bYI13L+BRZlA5PsX25aSEHzn SvVQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Mx1qOvA1P73kXtoOC5mQE+whGK/Ju2xANEJDSIOi1bs=; b=OhAnus5/ts20bfySqrds4yKWDCEP+KMfOeIk3wk+Qc5L/UblcTcEni4AXkTw46tlIf TnWRlB2pyag8Fj6L87QR+RupmfqklXmIN3o9ZgdWxSEPu/Q6sBDOqDZm0XtLISlsq2uv Rkssop1I8XvSDd64JNyvcMsx2ww19d35ggbsy9aFoMeRrqGorm46y7eryQCjAafqyAFA Dh7e8UrhkONedrTvXqL+qwVfbBTAQA6tQltEkpXnEbLRDf2I8qb2runyuzg9iyNX0im0 6cNltU/n91QyS8WF+0Fs27m156NkM0lnQG2DR6S8iq71RbW77VatiVCwML5zice8IzCV ZSlA== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7FazQPWstUn1Y/dB44hjEHCwUxphbhnqVc+o0AtD6D8v2JtWgEq NEl5I6MxAKezbH21yBPHPxFJSL7pAOFvSbSnQIybtw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELtS6rIWpwiEjmeOkWzSLFZ3kWeY8mDCjCHuAq5jAgJUrg2hEL5KZLmGCyyQV7TTpNtFd7HaSJc3ztPhQYwSVmU= X-Received: by 10.80.139.70 with SMTP id l64mr9760403edl.149.1521131506609; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 09:31:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 10.80.147.165 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 09:31:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:1052:acc7:f9de:2b6d] In-Reply-To: <1521130827.99081.43.camel@freebsd.org> References: <201803151614.w2FGEttu093805@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <1521130827.99081.43.camel@freebsd.org> From: Warner Losh Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 10:31:46 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: sfLzaG66ULsH8kbRDIzJBZcxLCk Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r330972 - stable/11/share/misc To: Ian Lepore Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Justin Hibbits , Andriy Gapon , Eitan Adler , src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-stable@freebsd.org, svn-src-stable-11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: svn-src-stable-11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for only the 11-stable src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:31:49 -0000 On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Ian Lepore wrote: > On Thu, 2018-03-15 at 09:14 -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-03-15 at 10:52 -0500, Justin Hibbits wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Ian Lepore > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree completely with all of this.??It bothers me how many > > > > > committers > > > > > have the attitude that handling MFCs is not part of being a > > > > > committer. > > > > Never attribute to arrogance that which can adequately be > > > > explained > > > > by > > > > sheer laziness ;) > > > > > > > > - Justin (guilty of marking changes as MFC after, and ignoring > > > > them > > > > for far too long) > > > > > > > Laziness and procrastination I understand -- I own a lovely glass > > > house > > > in that neighborhood. ?I tend to put off MFCs for way too long then > > > every few months have to spend a whole weekend catching up. > > MFC: 1 week (by pool|self) #defaults to self if missing > > > > There is already a very nice tracking tool for outstanding MFC's, > > if we added a bit of smarts in its parser, and created a pool of > > MFC commiters (Eitan seems to have started one :-)) those who > > do not want to do there own MFC work could pass the hat. > > If you're talking about the MFC after: field in commits, I don't use > it. I have about zero tolerance for being nagged by anybody about > anything, and that goes double for robots nagging me with spam mail. > > The MFC tool that works well for me is gonzo's MFCTracker site [*] that > doesn't require extra markup in the commit messages. > I also have a MFC tool for git, but it's n