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Date:      Tue, 15 Jun 2021 01:31:32 -0700
From:      Mark Millard via freebsd-ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
To:        Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de>, bob prohaska <fbsd@www.zefox.net>
Cc:        FreeBSD ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Restarting poudriere
Message-ID:  <F01BB244-CD05-4A4F-A052-5ABE773D221D@yahoo.com>
References:  <F01BB244-CD05-4A4F-A052-5ABE773D221D.ref@yahoo.com>

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Michael Gmelin <freebsd_at_grem.de> wrote on
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 09:31:26 +0200 :

On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 18:02:33 -0700
bob prohaska <fbsd_at_www.zefox.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 09:52:22PM +0200, Michael Gmelin wrote:
> > > 
> > >   
> > > > On 14. Jun 2021, at 20:30, bob prohaska <fbsd_at_www.zefox.net>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > ???On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 06:46:52PM +0200, Michael Gmelin
> > > > wrote:  
> > > >> On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 09:28:39 -0700
> > > >> What do you mean by "restarting"?
> > > >> How do you invoke poudriere exactly?  
> > > > As root,
> > > > poudriere bulk -J 2 -j main x11-wm/lxqt www/chromium >
> > > > testbuild.log  
> > > 
> > > Doesn???t ninja handle parallel builds on its own anyway? Does it
> > > work okay if you comment out ALLOW_*_JOBS in poudriere.conf?  
> > 
> > The line ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS is already commented out in 
> > /usr/local/etc/poudriere.conf  but it's active in
> > /etc/make.conf
> > 
> > I remain a bit confused about how poudriere and make coordinate their
> > parallel job spawning activity. In the latest case the -J 2 on the
> > poudriere command line put two packages under construction, but the
> > ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS line in /etc/make.conf didn't result in parallel
> > threads building LLVM10. Clearly I don't understand the relationship
> > between builders, jobs, threads and (much!) more. 
> 
> /etc/make.conf from the host system is not used by poudriere, as it aims
> to provide clean-room builds and therefore doesn't use configurations
> that also serve a purpose on the host system.
> 
> All configurations come from /usr/local/etc/poudriere.conf and
> various files in /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/.

I'll explicitly note that one of the files is:

/usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/make.conf

It is the most global make.conf in poudriere's activities.
For poudriere, someone writing about using make.conf likely
is implicitly referencing the one at that path (unless they
report something that indicates otherwise).

Bob: Sorry I did not notice the /etc/make.conf reference in
your earlier material. I should have commented on the
distinction.

> See also the
> CUSTOMISATION section in poudriere(8) (reading that man pages is useful
> in general).
> 
> So if you want to use this feature, you need to enable it in
> poudriere.conf (but I would still recommend using
> ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS_PACKAGES instead and also only if you don't use
> multiple builders, given the limited resources of your machine).

/usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/make.conf use should work fine
as well.

My guess is that Bob will explore what various combinations
do, including for hitting resource limits vs. not. He has a
long history of doing such and I've learned some (for me)
handy things from some of his explorations and what they
lead to.

> > Perhaps I've complicated matters by using testport on earlier,
> > successful, tries. Is there a significant difference if one just
> > wants to make  packages? I merely wanted to see how the
> > attempt would fail and hoped for more diagnostics. But it worked.
> > So, I tried bulk and that doesn't seem to work so well.
> 
> As someone pointed out earlier in this thread, looking at the
> poudriere build log of a failed build (and maybe sharing it) could help
> to find a solution.


Bob has a history of posting large log files someplace for
reference. So I'd not be surprised if he does that again for
this issue at some point.

===
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com
( dsl-only.net went
away in early 2018-Mar)




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