From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Sep 11 23:27:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA08639 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 23:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from counterintelligence.ml.org (mdean.vip.best.com [206.86.94.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA08634; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 23:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jamil@localhost) by counterintelligence.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA00589; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 23:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 23:25:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jamil J. Weatherbee" To: "Jay D. Nelson" cc: Greg Lehey , FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: Do *you* have problems with floppies? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I started my machine up fine with the freebsd boot disk to change a few things it loaded as normal --- but my floppy has never worked from within freebsd, I've reported it a few times but people seem to think it is just me. On Thu, 11 Sep 1997, Jay D. Nelson wrote: > Sorry, I can't offer any help with software bugs. I've used an > odd-ball assortment of floppies since 2.0 with less than 5% failure. I > rarely bother to reformat. I dd the image to /dev/fd0 and am as happy > as a pig in a mud hole. I'm using Mitsumis now, but have used Teacs and > Sonys equally well. If there's a bug, I haven't seen it. > > I would suspect the ability of a MicroS**t product to do anything > rational with questionable media. Maybe the dos program (rawrite?) > needs to make up for Redmond's short comings? > > -- Jay > > On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > I've seen a lot of reports recently about problems with floppies under > > FreeBSD. Now I can understand a lot of that: floppies must be the > > most unreliable data storage medium I can think of, not to mention the > > most expensive per byte. But I'm getting the feeling that there is > > more to it than that, that possibly there's a bug in the floppy driver > > and that we're blaming it on the inherent unreliability of the medium. > > > > I'm looking for indications which would point towards the driver. One > > of these might be: > > > > 1. Floppy formatted under on the same machine. > > 2. FreeBSD runs into hardware problems with the floppy (typically > > things like checksum errors). > > 3. can read the entire floppy with no trouble. > > > > If you can give me hard evidence of such occurrences, I'd like to hear > > from you. I know that plenty of people can tell me that they've had > > occurrences of (2), maybe in conjunction with (1), but unless you can > > prove (3) as well, I don't want to hear from you. > > > > In addition, if you have any other evidence I haven't thought of which > > would also point to an error in the floppy driver, please contact me. > > > > Greg > > >