From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 04:59:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CDB16A4CE; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 04:59:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from cell.sick.ru (cell.sick.ru [217.72.144.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B58543D1D; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 04:59:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: from cell.sick.ru (glebius@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i22CxZQE025918 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Mar 2004 15:59:36 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@cell.sick.ru) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.sick.ru (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id i22CxZ9O025917; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 15:59:35 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 15:59:35 +0300 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Brad Knowles Message-ID: <20040302125935.GA25835@cell.sick.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Gleb Smirnoff , Brad Knowles , Wes Peters , Andre Oppermann , freebsd-net@freebsd.org References: <4043B6BA.B847F081@freebsd.org> <200403011507.52238.wes@softweyr.com> <20040302031625.GA4061@scylla.towardex.com> <20040302042957.GH3841@saboteur.dek.spc.org> <20040302082625.GE22985@cell.sick.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Andre Oppermann cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My planned work on networking stack X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 12:59:40 -0000 On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 01:07:58PM +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: B> > Is there any plans about integration of BGP routing daemon (Zebra or B> > Quagga) into FreeBSD? With BGP routing daemon onboard, FreeBSD will be B> > a strong alternative against expensive commercial routers. I have B> > successfull experience of running FreeBSD STABLE with 2 full BGP views B> > for half a year. Modern i386 PC can route/filter/shape much more traffic B> > than expensive Cisco 36xx. I haven't yet compared with 7000 series... B> B> Talk to people who have real-world experience in running B> zebra/quagga in ISP environments with multiple upstreams and taking B> full views. The guy who is designing bgpd for OpenBSD gave a talk on Haven't you understand? I'm the "person who has real-world experience in running zebra in ISP environments with multiple upstreams and taking full views". B> the subject at FOSDEM, and it was very enlightening to hear about the B> problems with zebra (which went commercial and the open source B> version basically hasn't been touched in years) and quagga (which is Browse zebra CVS to make sure that author is commiting bugfixes. For example: last commit to BGP code is done 2 weeks ago. B> a community of zebra users trying desperately to fix the worst of the B> bugs), and how he has used this information during his design of a I can't say a word about quagga, since I haven't use it, but I have positive experience with zebra (see above). B> If anything, I'd be inclined to look towards his work for OpenBSD B> and see if that could be imported into FreeBSD (and maybe improved, B> with contributions given back to him), rather than mess around with B> crap like zebra or quagga. I stop replying... Do not like flame. -- Totus tuus, Glebius. GLEBIUS-RIPN GLEB-RIPE