From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 24 10:52: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freeside.fc.net (freeside.fc.net [207.170.70.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8988153D2 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:52:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdunham@freeside.fc.net) Received: (from jdunham@localhost) by freeside.fc.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id MAA31642; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:50:43 -0600 (CST) From: Jerry Dunham Message-Id: <199911241850.MAA31642@freeside.fc.net> Subject: Re: Programmers' editor? In-Reply-To: <00e101bf3681$44cb04a0$8c0aa8c0@hk.tbv.se> from James A Wilde at "Nov 24, 1999 02:39:01 pm" To: james.wilde@telia.com (James A Wilde) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:50:43 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG James A Wilde babbled: > From: "James A Wilde" > To: > Two quickies: > > 1) Thanks to all who have helped with a) suggestions about ee, which > I'll try, and b) hints on some other useful commands I can use in vi. > My competence in vi has doubled overnight! And it wouldn't take much to double it yet again. Somewhere around here I have a vi cheatsheet that I could send along if you'd find it useful. > 2) Sorry that my messages have had no eol breaks in them. For email > I mostly live in the sheltered world of Windows which takes care of > that kind of thing for you. I will try and make sure I put in CRLF > at appropriate places in messages to this - and other UNIX - mailing > lists to which I subscribe. I disagree with your view that Windows takes care of that kind of thing for you. I spend hours every day in Microsoft Outlook, and I can tell you with conviction that Windows mailers that I know (cc:Mail, Outlook, and Netscape) take care of screwing up that kind of thing for you. They do such a good job that it's nearly impossible to send a message that arrives unmutilated at a destination using a mailer other than the one you used to create the message. Outlook messages only look good to other Outlook users; cc:Mail messages only look good to other cc:Mail users (and then not always). At least most UNIX mailers allow you to send out properly formatted messages if you set them up right. > And I don't really think vi is crap. It's just that the only thing > less intuitive in its natural state than vi is probably emacs. and moves out of the war zone> . As a heavy (and even heavier after tomorrow's turkey) vi user, I agree with you. -- Jerry Dunham FreeBSD Atarian ordinaire jdunham@fc.net (512)335-0674 (H) jdunham@avalanche.us.dell.com (512)728-4026 (O) E Pluribus Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message