From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 22:55:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAE6106566C for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFF08FC15 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eco.config (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 4A203296068559E6; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:55:03 +0000 Message-ID: <4B217C46.6080000@onetel.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:55:02 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <20091206102227.7C3BA10656F0@hub.freebsd.org> <20091210185602.T12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20091210101812.63806e1c.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B20F60B.7090701@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <4B20F60B.7090701@otenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Nicky Chorley , Polytropon , Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:55:26 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Polytropon wrote: >> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:47:08 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: >> > >> >>> But the naive or new installer knows of no such thing, and >>> could beat around in the huge lists of X software for ages, wondering >>> what's required and what's not to get a desktop going. >>> >> Therefore, I always liked the choice for X in sysinstall: It >> basically installed all the components to get X up and running. >> No big trouble getting the correct xorg-driver-* packages, >> installing and removing them, the xorg-input-* packages with >> the same story... >> >> >> > There is an X.org meta-package that installs everything though. It is > just a problem with the beginner not knowing what to select. This can be > tackled in two ways IMO, first is by creating a "First time FreeBSD > desktop installer" type article, second would be adding a menu choice in > sysinstall "Install a standard X desktop {GNOME,KDE}". I must admit I > much prefer the first solution. Agree with most of the above except I think an X option and a separate desktop option in sysinstall is better - not everyone who wants X also wants gnome or kde. Oh wait that's how it used to be :) The problem with an article is how to view it during an install and how to know it is even there. Chris