From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 8 05:07:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83F916A403; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 05:07:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mv@thebeastie.org) Received: from p4.roq.com (ns1.ecoms.com [207.44.130.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD66013C478; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 05:07:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mv@thebeastie.org) Received: from p4.roq.com (localhost.roq.com [127.0.0.1]) by p4.roq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2307D4CCF7; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 04:49:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smitch7.jumbuck.com (unknown [206.112.99.82]) by p4.roq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED29E4C666; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 04:49:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smitch7.jumbuck.com (mail.jumbuck.com [206.112.99.82]) by smitch7.jumbuck.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5939C4111CB; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 04:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beaste5.jumbuck.com (melbourne.jumbuck.com [150.101.166.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smitch7.jumbuck.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08769410EA7; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 04:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beaste5.jumbuck.com (beast5 [192.168.46.105]) by beaste5.jumbuck.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B20209D1A9; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:45:59 +1100 (EST) Received: from [192.168.46.102] (unknown [192.168.46.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by beaste5.jumbuck.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F5A209D195; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:45:59 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <45CAAB06.40907@thebeastie.org> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:45:58 +1100 From: Michael Vince User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060727 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicole Harrington References: <676973.69182.qm@web34510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <676973.69182.qm@web34510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual Core Or Dual CPU - What's the real difference in performance? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 05:07:14 -0000 Nicole Harrington wrote: > Hello all, > I have been building/using servers that were dual CPU >AMD Opteron systems for some time. (usually 246 >Opteron cpu's) > > Now of course the world is shifting to Dual Core. > > Using FreeBSD, what is really the difference, besides >power and ability to shove in more memory, between >having the two seperate CPUS's? > > What if I did 2, Dual Core cpu's? Would the SMP >overhead and sharing to a [Giant Locked] disk and or >network erase any benefits? > > Thanks! > > Nicole > > Dual core or Quad Core CPUs performance are far better compared to more socket CPUs since they get shared access to memory cache and reduce memory latency/probing over AMDs hypertransport bus. Anandtech did a pretty good review of AMD 4x4 system which compares 2 AMD dual cores with a single Intel Quad chip, where the Intel chip clearly outperforms consistantly because of this fact. Even when taking Intel out of the equation the benchmarks consistantly show even better performance with less sockets for AMD. http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2879&p=6 There appears to be no advantage to having seperate CPU socket systems what so ever. And yes the power usage is also bad, even though this example is a quad setup the fact still carriers over to Dual vs 2 socket CPUs. http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2879&p=13 Here we have a Quad AMD setup using a whopping 456watts over Intels Quad 263watt system. Thats a performance per watt difference of 73% if you even choose to see the AMD quad multisocket CPU performance as the same as Intels. Mike