From owner-freebsd-security Sun Nov 26 7:10:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mail8.sc.rr.com (fe8.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BFCA37B663 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 07:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from cae88-102-101.sc.rr.com ([24.88.102.101]) by mail8.sc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Sun, 26 Nov 2000 10:08:59 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:05:13 -0400 From: "Donald J . Maddox" To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: dmaddox@conterra.com, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to prevent motd including os info Message-ID: <19990913210513.A3167@dmaddox.conterra.com> Reply-To: dmaddox@conterra.com References: <4.1.19990913003757.0096b660@mail.thegrid.net> <4.1.19990913003757.0096b660@mail.thegrid.net> <19990913173532.A842@dmaddox.conterra.com> <3.0.3.32.19990913191825.00ad66f0@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990913191825.00ad66f0@207.227.119.2> Content-Length: 1304 Lines: 39 Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 13, 1999 at 07:18:25PM -0500, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > At 05:35 PM 9/13/99 -0400, Donald J . Maddox wrote: > >Bzzzt! The correct answer is in /etc/login.conf, of course. > > > >You assume a lot. How do you know I don't have the user in a jail > >that doesn't even remotely resemble a *BSD system (even though it > >actually is within one)? > > Ding! Ding! Ding! Give the man a prize... > > For a colossal waste time. Don't care to get into what would be required > to remove all traces of FreeBSD in all files and good luck doing so. > > > Scramble away and lock me up... > > Won't help much if 'strings' is around and if it isn't... > > Still no problem. 8-) Sigh. This point is not worth all this discussion, but _again_... There may not be ANYTHING *BSD in the jail environment, let alone 'strings'. Again, assumptions. The point of my original question was just to find out how NOT to make the OS flavor readily apparent. That there are good reasons for doing so is not a point I am going to debate. We've all seen the 'security through obscurity' debates rehashed on these lists MANY times. Let's not do it again. > > > Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net > Systems/Network Administrator > FreeBSD - the power to serve > '86 Yamaha MaxiumX (not FBSD powered) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message