From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 10 13:46:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AB716A474 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:46:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB9313C478 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:45:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47162099; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:45:49 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Tests: AWL X-Spam-Learn: disabled X-Spam-Score: -0.2/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on tim.des.no Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8780F2089; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:45:49 +0100 (CET) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 639C38449F; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:45:49 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <88854.1199953554@critter.freebsd.dk> <4785D9CB.5080909@gmail.com> <4785E8A0.30806@gmail.com> <20080110110052.GB10155@freebie.xs4all.nl> <4786058F.8080101@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:45:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4786058F.8080101@gmail.com> (Aryeh M. Friedman's message of "Thu\, 10 Jan 2008 06\:46\:23 -0500") Message-ID: <86y7axhjzm.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Wilko Bulte , Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Dominic Fandrey Subject: Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:46:00 -0000 "Aryeh M. Friedman" writes: > One thing that FOSS (BSD or GPL) has historical had issues doing > cleanly is seperating free software from free beer. The first being > a very important goal and the second a unfair side effect of thinking > that open source by definition means free use of the products. Speak for yourself. > Yes the source should be avaible to everyone but as far I can tell > that does not automatically and should not translate into not having > some responibility to the community that created the project in the > first place.... my approach (along with 3 other small software > vendors) is to have a requirement to contribute back to the community > in some form (in work or help support those doing the work), namely it > is free software but not free beer. Excellent idea, if your goal is to kill the project. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no