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Date:      Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:13:07 -0700
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        Hans Petter Selasky <hselasky@c2i.net>
Cc:        Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Documentation on writing a custom socket
Message-ID:  <47D57A33.1070209@elischer.org>
In-Reply-To: <200803101751.48055.hselasky@c2i.net>
References:  <200803081133.02575.hselasky@c2i.net> <47D41160.9070901@elischer.org> <20080310105727.ah4y31sh40o04gw4@webmail.leidinger.net> <200803101751.48055.hselasky@c2i.net>

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Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
> ISDN can have more than 2-data channels per logical unit. There is something 
> called E1 and T1 which has 30 and 24 B-channels respectivly per D-channel.

I know, but neither of these represent any challenge to modern hardware.

> 
> --HPS
> 
> On Monday 10 March 2008, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
>> Quoting Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org> (from Sun, 09 Mar 2008
>>
>> 09:33:36 -0700):
>>> Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
>>>> On Saturday 08 March 2008, Robert Watson wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, do you
>>>>> anticipate using or even needing the routing facilities, and how might
>>>>> you map ISDN telephony parts into the normal network stack
>>>>> infrastructure of addresses, routing, interfaces, etc?
>>>> Hi Robert,
>>>>
>>>> ISDN is very simple. In the ISDN world there is a term called TEI
>>>> which is the Terminal Entity Identifier. This kind of like an IP
>>>> address.
>>>>
>>>> Besides from the signalling there are 2 B-channels which can
>>>> transport data or audio. One of my goals is to achive zero copy
>>>> when moving data to/from an ISDN line and also in combination to
>>>> Voice over IP. Currently data is moved through userland (Asterisk
>>>> typically) which is usable in the short term, but in the long run I
>>>>  want this extra copying removed. The idea is that I can route [IP]
>>>>  packets (mbufs) through various filters in the kernel without the
>>>> need for copy.
>>> Given the speed of ISDN connections, It is not worth doing zero copy
>>> on ISDN unless you have more than 1000 of them,  which seems unlikely.
>>> given a total throughput of 128000 b/s and the speed of current
>>> hardware, the number of packets per second is probably not high
>>> enough to make the difference even noticable.
>> What about low-power embedded systems and a high count of small
>> packets (VoIP)? Where do you draw the line between powerful enough and
>> how do you chose this line?
>>
>> Bye,
>> Alexander.
> 




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