From owner-freebsd-current Fri Dec 10 5: 0:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9AD1525B for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 05:00:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p24-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.163.200.121]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id VAA23060; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:59:36 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3850F88D.92172FB0@newsguy.com> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:56:45 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey Cc: Motoyuki Konno , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: why 'The legacy aout build' was removed from current ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chuck Robey wrote: > > This isn't taking the execution of aout binaries out, just stopping a > world build. This is only going to stop 3rd party developers from making > a 4.0 aout platform to create *more* aout binaries. They'll probably hang > on for dear life on 2.2, just as long as they can. Heh. :-) True enough. But *new* developments won't. What Motoyuki-san is complaining about is that applications that depend on a.out libraries will suffer. Alas, I don't think that's the case, since all these libraries are (or ought to be, anyway) in compat. > Looking at copious examples from real life, forcing 3rd party developers > to upgrade is a good way to lose 3rd party developers. It just *sounds* > like a good way to go. As long as this is a change for building world, > and not making changes to the kern/imgact things (so we keep on executing > aout binaries) then this is probably the best way to go. OTOH, going the other way around is the reason why we (users) had to deal with things like 1 Mb RAM and 64 Kb segments in the age of 486s, one generation after the introduction of the 80386. As a free operating system supported by volunteer effort, we are interested in driving the hardware to it's limits instead of being limited by the ways we once did things. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) who is as social as a wampas dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message