From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 5 8:25:27 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AA137B401 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:25:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (oe61.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA8B43FAF for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:25:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ccorayer@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:25:23 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [66.30.133.209] From: "chris corayer" To: References: Subject: Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:30:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2003 16:25:23.0710 (UTC) FILETIME=[D2ABB1E0:01C2E333] Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "> if it can be made to work. I would argue that ISA support is > > more or less just as obsolete, as is 486 support, as is the F00F > > bug workaround, as is ... a lot of code that's still there. " That's just being silly. ISA support is still very much a requirement. Laptops usually have ISA stuff in them. Even modern systems do. My Shuttle box developed all sorts of issues when I removed ISA support from the kernel. They were all solved when I put it back in. We're talking about legacy stuff IN USE. If no one noticed it was broken for years then no one used it. It all seems like there was zero interest in in until it was announced that it was going away and suddenly someone wants to keep it around and submit patches, etc. It wasn't a case of "I'm still using it, here's a patch to make it work." It was "I did some work last night to patch it so it would compile." Those are 2 VERY different arguments. I would say that you should submit your patches and documentation by all means should anyone in the future. But if no one needs it, the code should be retired. Lack of a maintainer, lack of a userbase, issues with kernel maintenance are all valid reasons to retire code. This is code that the manufacturer wanted kept years ago and then didn't bother to keep up their end of the bargain. Fix it if you want, but it should probably be axed. My probably uninformed .02$. -Chris Corayer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message