From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 4 11:12:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD0BC35; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 11:12:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECE129AD; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 11:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nine.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by smtp-int.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD5141DE; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 11:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by nine.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8CC1C33B9E; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 13:12:41 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Dmitry Morozovsky Subject: Re: OpenSSH, PAM and kerberos References: <86sixrwdcv.fsf@nine.des.no> <8661uj9lc6.fsf@nine.des.no> <20130902181754.GD3796@zxy.spb.ru> <867geywdfc.fsf@nine.des.no> <20130903083301.GF3796@zxy.spb.ru> <86y57euu8y.fsf@nine.des.no> <20130903093756.GG3796@zxy.spb.ru> <86ppsqutw7.fsf@nine.des.no> <998724759.20130903142637@serebryakov.spb.ru> <20130903103922.GI3796@zxy.spb.ru> <6110257289.20130903145034@serebryakov.spb.ru> <86d2oquopo.fsf@nine.des.no> <226539732.20130903154908@serebryakov.spb.ru> <8661uiujin.fsf@nine.des.no> <1734535072.20130903174359@serebryakov.spb.ru> <86vc2it2ip.fsf@nine.des.no> <1601348478.20130903182152@serebryakov.spb.ru> <86fvtludku.fsf@nine.des.no> <1289783626.20130904002038@serebryakov.spb.ru> <867gext445.fsf@nine.des.no> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 13:12:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Dmitry Morozovsky's message of "Wed, 4 Sep 2013 12:56:01 +0400 (MSK)") Message-ID: <86ob88rgba.fsf@nine.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, lev@freebsd.org, Slawa Olhovchenkov X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 11:12:41 -0000 Dmitry Morozovsky writes: > Maybe it would help if we would have some kind of diagram showing differe= nt=20 > parts/phases of security- and credentials-related decision making process= es? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiRQvrrIhq0k (if I seem a little confused at times, it's because I was sick and hadn't slept and had spent the previous day rewriting my presentation almost from scratch) I'll post it on my blog (http://blog.des.no/) later today or tomorrow with a few additional comments (one of which is that Apple's security framework is *not* called CDDL - that was a slip of the tongue - but the specification really *is* 1000+ pages long) I'm giving a followup presentation at EuroBSDCon 2013 in St Julians, Malta in a couple of weeks, which will focus less on the problem and more on the solution. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no