From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 25 00:33:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A045106564A; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:33:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onyx.glenbarber.us (onyx.glenbarber.us [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:c200::face]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E525D8FC15; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:33:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from glenbarber.us (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:8:1205:2:2:0:24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gjb) by onyx.glenbarber.us (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4570F23F641; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 20:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 20:33:47 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: Jonathan Anderson Message-ID: <20120825003346.GA1345@glenbarber.us> References: <97612B57-1255-4BB3-A6D3-FC74324C6D67@FreeBSD.org> <20120824081543.GB2998@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <50380269.6020003@FreeBSD.org> <67BB0A66-A9D2-4257-A91E-C249B8076A87@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <67BB0A66-A9D2-4257-A91E-C249B8076A87@gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Steve Wills , Baptiste Daroussin , Doug Barton , current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:33:53 -0000 --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 01:25:15AM +0100, Jonathan Anderson wrote: > On 24 Aug 2012, at 23:38, Doug Barton wrote: > > Let me rephrase that more simply ... very few users are ever going to > > need the bootstrapping tool that will be in the base. >=20 So, then they won't use it. I fail to see the problem here. > But surely the whole point of pkgng is that people *will* use pkg > as the default method of acquiring third-party software, so they'll > want to "pkg install foo" and have it Just Work. To say either "you > must download the ports tree in order to use binary packages" or > "you must use pkg_add to install pkg" seems to miss the point... >=20 /usr/sbin/pkg installs /usr/local/sbin/pkg without requiring the Ports Collection to be available locally. Glen --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJQOB1qAAoJEFJPDDeguUajsFEH/j8vvdEx/IVKukZ5/SX/CKTS ZXUvrGdtktWztHSSHicXdKp2Id0JErXv+BikdOftRst4FP2PPZd/N+1UNrlJ42sb 4rSrYxkKVf0ooQTwrfVlETfb5bAdtXZLNUCiNu/WFh/jbCpOgkkuwFr49HUhZCHg 4VL1/wsgYaVkcVNIDscIsKYRNImHosLem4kxKiht60P8SUsOQ07cWFU7olo/QEHw E/b5gW/4TUnWsJpxZH0Xheh5mxw7eJ6l8XbKemdZmtYdq01VrygOI1WR7UgtxYf0 +64ZMf0Zv45opV8Ov7+ArHn0NVBTGe0tUas5cmwvUnsMe2b4xVpoX+VH6JRSBUA= =2fL9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO--