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Date:      Thu, 27 Oct 2022 21:33:02 +0200
From:      tuexen@freebsd.org
To:        "Scheffenegger, Richard" <Richard.Scheffenegger@netapp.com>
Cc:        Tom Jones <thj@freebsd.org>, Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org>, Zhenlei Huang <zlei.huang@gmail.com>, "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Too aggressive TCP ACKs
Message-ID:  <A9530F4C-E076-4390-ABB2-00950AB6A927@freebsd.org>
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> On 27. Oct 2022, at 10:08, Scheffenegger, Richard =
<Richard.Scheffenegger@netapp.com> wrote:
>=20
>>>>> It focuses on QUIC, but congestion control dynamics don't change=20=

>>>>> with the protocol. You should be able to read there, but if not =
I'm=20
>>>>> happy to send anyone a pdf.
>>>> Is QUIC using an L=3D2 for ABC?
>>>=20
>>> I think that is the rfc recommendation, actual deployed reality is=20=

>>> more scattershot.
>> Wouldn't that be relevant? If you get an ack for, let's say 8 =
packets, you would only increment (in slow start) the cwnd by 2 packets, =
not 8?
>>=20
>> Best regards
>> Michael
>=20
> Isn't that the optimization in Linux with QuickAck during the periods, =
where the data receiver assumes, that the sender is still in SlowStart - =
and acking every packet?
Sure. But that is not specified... I just wanted to point out that =
simply
"Changing the ACK ratio seems to be okay in most cases" might be more =
complex
than the sentence reads...

Best regards
Michael

>=20
> Richard
>=20




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