From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 19:28:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C310E1065675 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:28:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509158FC20 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so75219eyi.7 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:28:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mCZ+FVzOsSp3IJ79oC1q0hn+0fk5J2qRLUuEIdqEXwo=; b=td45byYO3d8eg2lBGDBrBz90jXBgDTNYlpAIRGZl7m9fmyFwfhqNKzM60YBbk9pRhF YjkVHBj3GlEBvibJ4EFmmgW31SB6vn83BhoHj9/UVOZWwIoj6hPyS2IRCRTDqmkI3/Gy 515dpqR6hkolTFHr04iplnzJwgK7vMZtvTOSc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Y0T8Veb4nHbE6v7nU+xiCelvzP6alCclDLOtnCFjk8N9LzCgN63mOuYUqZQvAcy1IR ZXi12CYblla8vHHvWHSYQa7/3NXodEDfBCmbfFaPg2j6p9VTApMKspacS9klxqqJjbHP Nft3z4VHinFeAmUJFReo+aW5C/RvBed1FWSpE= Received: by 10.210.68.17 with SMTP id q17mr10459980eba.181.1225308505953; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.101? ([81.193.51.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f3sm311253nfh.2.2008.10.29.12.28.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4908B955.4050409@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:28:21 +0000 From: pwn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <4908687B.7020105@gmail.com> <20081029165518.GB7985@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4908A3B1.4070309@gmail.com> <20081029181149.GB8360@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4908ADD4.90000@gmail.com> <20081029190834.GC8360@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20081029190834.GC8360@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd installation order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:28:27 -0000 Jerry McAllister escreveu: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 06:39:16PM +0000, pwn wrote: > > >> Jerry McAllister escreveu: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 05:56:01PM +0000, pwn wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Jerry McAllister escreveu: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 01:43:23PM +0000, pwn wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> immediately after the installation of FreeBSD what steps should be >>>>>> performed by order >>>>>> 1 - Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel >>>>>> 2 - The Cutting Edge >>>>>> 3 - Updating FreeBSD >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this the proper order? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I would say, first update FreeBSD src and rebuild. >>>>> Then update the ports tree >>>>> Then, if you must, configure a custom kernel - or if >>>>> nothing is critical, just skip that. >>>>> >>>>> Then, install what ports you want and start running. >>>>> >>>>> As for cutting edge, do you mean tracking CURRENT? >>>>> If so, if you are using it to get in on FreeBSD development, then >>>>> do that now and daily. If it is a server for something, then don't >>>>> do that. Just periodically or if some important patch comes put, pull >>>>> in the latest security fixes with update. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ////jerry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> just to clarify >>>> >>>> I would say, first update FreeBSD src and rebuild. Then update the ports >>>> tree >>>> Re:both this task can be done using csup or cvsup and using the samples >>>> provided in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ >>>> >>>> >>> Yup. That is what I use. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Then, if you must, configure a custom kernel >>>> Re:(taking a look on hardware and editing generic for example) >>>> >>>> >>> Unless you are running something where absolute maximum performance >>> is critical, don't bother removing things from the kernel. Just >>> limit customizing to adding those things you need that are not >>> in by default - some drivers, maybe. >>> >>> >>> >>>> As for cutting edge, do you mean tracking CURRENT? >>>> Re:yes, but i dont want get in on FreeBSD dev team, so i guess STABLE is >>>> enought. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> So, yup. You seem to have it. >>> >>> ////jerry >>> >>> >> on this page >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html >> it says: >> Tip: By default, when you build a custom kernel, all kernel modules will >> be rebuilt as well. If you want to update a kernel faster or to build >> only custom modules, you should edit /etc/make.conf before starting to >> build the kernel: >> > > It would take more time to edit /etc/make.conf than you would > save in the kernel build. If you are doing lots of kernel > builds while doing development, maybe then this would be worthwhile, > but kernel builds do not take enough time on modern machines to > bother speeding them up trivial amounts. Basically, this is > saying you can fix things up so that it only builds those modules > that you are changing when you do a rebuild and skips the others. > > This is not relevant to general system performance, just kernel > builds. > > ////jerry > i got it =), although, imho kernel builds always affect system performance.(maybe not in general) i was just asking myself a away for simplify at extreme this tasks that sometime can take many time, i guess after configure FreeBSD on a machine i should copy some configuration files like, /etc/make.conf and a custom kernel in attempt to avoid repetitive tasks. > >> isnt enought editing the configuration file? part of the devices listed >> there use modules that do not interest me which can i delete or comment, >> why the use of /etc/make.conf ? >> also, its possible to automate all this pos-installation tasks in order >> to get things running fast and optimized? (i know /etc/make.conf can be >> used for this) but there are other methods that require spendless time? >> >> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> there is some set of rules to be followed post-installation? >>>>>> since, i do not find any reference mentioning the order that should be >>>>>> followed immediately after installation i would like to be informed if >>>>>> possible what will be the proper order to facilitate the maintenance of >>>>>> the operating system and the installation of new applications without >>>>>> conflicts or problems with ports. >>>>>> thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> > >