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NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[212.227.15.15:from:127.0.2.255]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[212.227.15.15:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 20:44:34 -0000 Yes, the video is part of the wiki.freebsd.org entry I've written down. The information in the video is a little bit unmotivated and I am aware that it is not that simple. That video leads me to the question here, if anyone is working on it. Cause Mr. Gibbs talks about it like he already started something in this direction and is already into it (or he just knows). :-) Yet, I will start by looking into the FreeBSD mount_smbfs code and the one from apple. Am 30.12.20 um 21:34 schrieb Daniel Ebdrup Jensen: > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 08:24:31PM +0100, CerebrosuS wrote: >> >> >> Am 30.12.20 um 20:05 schrieb Miroslav Lachman: >>> On 30/12/2020 18:57, CerebrosuS wrote: >>>> Hello at all, >>>> >>>> the community and developer at FreeBSD seem to know, that SMBv1 for >>>> clients is nearly over and that the included mount_smbfs doesn't >>>> support >>>> newer versions. So good, so far... >>>> >>>> So I can find multiple information about the situation, but no clear >>>> path on how FreeBSD community and developer will go on to solve this >>>> missing function. (Just got the information on: >>>> https://wiki.freebsd.org/MateuszPiotrowski/AccessingSmbSharesWithSamb= aClient) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This is what I am asking: >>>> - Is there a project existing for solving this problem (with whatever >>>> target)? >>>> - What is the way to go in future? Extend mount_smbfs or support the >>>> fuse-smbnetfs part to be stable and fast like mount_smbfs (buggy and >>>> laggy here)? >>>> - Who is mainly working on it, if a project already exist? >>>> >>>> I'am just interested, cause of not finding such information clearly. = Is >>>> there maybe a general project management list / team to see what >>>> projects are going on in whatever state? >>>> >>>> I am a hobby developer mainly coming from chemical engineering side, >>>> having some time to help. I've already written some cross platform >>>> software but never related to network or on os-level. So I am motivat= ed >>>> to invest some time in getting stuff into FreeBSD, but for me, there = is >>>> a lack on information (see above). >>>> >>>> Thank you in advance for information and help. >>> >>> I was involved in the thread linked by Gleb. AFAIK nothing changed fro= m >>> that time. I tried something from ports but it has more problems (shar= es >>> cannot be mounted on boot like mount_smbfs does). >>> If somebody has time and skills to try to bring SMBv2 or v3 to FreeBSD >>> then Apple or Solaris sources is good start. The both were using the >>> same mount_smbfs (v1) as FreeBSD so one can check their sources and se= e >>> how they evolve to v2 / v3. >> >> They are both using exactly the same source code as a starting point an= d >> extend it (or rewrite it) to SMBv2? >> >>> But it is out of my skill. I am not >>> developer. I am just an extensive user of SMB mounted shares from >>> Windows servers. >> That might also be my problem, cause I've never written an application >> for network nor anything related to FreeBSD on os-level. But if no one >> starts, nothing might change at all. >> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Miroslav Lachman >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Hi folks, > > Justin T Gibbs, during one of the Office Hours meetings that have been > happening throughout the year, spoke at some length on the subject of > SMBv3 as it relates to integraetion in the base system [1] - and suffice > it to say, it's not nearly as simple as some people seem to asume that > it is. > > I hope that's somewhat helpful, and it's at least a little newer than > what's referenced elsewhere. > > [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DJi4ux4FWpRU&t=3D970