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Date:      Mon, 7 May 2001 14:58:53 -0300 (BRST)
From:      Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
To:        Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>
Cc:        Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@uunet.co.za>, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, Dennis Glatting <dennis.glatting@software-munitions.com>, <freebsd-stable@frebsd.org>, <freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: pgm to kill 4.3 via vm 
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.33.0105071455200.18102-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva>
In-Reply-To: <200105071709.f47H9Pr61499@earth.backplane.com>

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On Mon, 7 May 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:

>     their hands of the whole affair.  A production machine with 128M of ram
>     and 1G of swap is going to go down the tubes performance-wise long
>     before it runs out of swap.  Performance degredation under heavy
>     memory loads is a much more interesting and important problem
>     then swap exhaustion.

Indeed, this is an interesting area. In the process of
researching how to best implement this for Linux I have
found various reasons why both FreeBSD's and NetBSD's
load control systems cannot work in various realistic
scenarios.

The next step is designing a load control system that
does work (not too hard) and having a reliable way of
detecting when exactly the system is thrashing (next
to impossible?).

I'll make a detailed writeup of exactly why FreeBSD's
load control system cannot work and will post it to
arch@freebsd.org and linux-mm@kvack.org soon... ;)

regards,

Rik
--
Linux MM bugzilla: http://linux-mm.org/bugzilla.shtml

Virtual memory is like a game you can't win;
However, without VM there's truly nothing to lose...

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