From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Sep 1 09:53:53 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA08924 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 09:53:53 -0700 Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.20.4]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA08915 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 09:53:52 -0700 Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id LAA09161; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 11:53:19 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199509011653.LAA09161@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Gritching about serial port naming, plus Digiboard driver Q... To: peter@nmti.com (Peter da Silva) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 11:53:18 -0500 (CDT) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9508312004.AA20121@sonic.nmti.com.nmti.com> from "Peter da Silva" at Aug 31, 95 03:04:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: hackers-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > As it is I find it rather disconcerting that if I have a BB2016 in addition > > to the 4 internal serial ports, the BB ports are "sio4-19" and the tty names > > are correspondingly screwed. > > You could do what DEC does and have device names that have no relation to > the minor numbers. That would waste fewer minors, too. Yes, this is entirely true. I am thinking about this more from an administrative point of view, I suppose.... but then again, how do you deal with the case where somebody has installed com1/com2 as tty00-01 minor #s 0,1 BB2016 as tty10-1f minor #s 2-17 and then decides to install com3/4 as tty02-03? With the recent minor number range expansion, maybe it would make sense to assign something like 64 or 256 ports per letter, and just be done with it all...? tty00-01 minor #s 0,1 tty10-13 minor #s 256-259 tty20-23 minor #s 512-515 etc That way when somebody replaces a 4 port card with a 16 port card, there are no device names and minors to be shuffled. I don't really know from a kernel point of view how "wasteful" this is, but it would be really nice to see an easily manageable setup for serial ports. > I like the upper-lower distinction for dialin/dialout ports, myself, and it > makes things nice for PS and friends. It's not like anyone's going to run > on an ASR-33 or adm-3a without a lowercase ROM and get \ in the output... I don't like it, but that's opinion. > > Any luck? :-) > > Waiting for an Adaptec 1542 (it's an old ISA machine I'm rehabbing) so I can > start the install. I have three Digiboard PC/8e cards I want to use. Do I need > to install 2.1-STABLE to track the digiboard drivers or can I stick the new > drivers in 2.0.5 (this has a bearing on whether I spend a day downloading > stuff over our firewall and pissing everone off because it's a PPP link). Fun fun! :-) ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847