From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 6 20:06:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D71116A401 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B6E943D4C for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:06:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Apr 2006 20:06:43 -0000 Received: from p54A7F614.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.0.12]) [84.167.246.20] by mail.gmx.net (mp042) with SMTP; 06 Apr 2006 22:06:43 +0200 X-Authenticated: #5465401 Message-ID: <443574CD.2020405@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:06:37 +0200 From: "[LoN]Kamikaze" Organization: Lords of Nightmare User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060330) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen.Clark@seclark.us References: <20060405200341.GD14126@math.jussieu.fr> <20060405200727.GA28371@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060405201500.GE14126@math.jussieu.fr> <20060405211154.GA30089@soaustin.net> <44350FDF.1060206@gmx.de> <443570EE.6080703@seclark.us> In-Reply-To: <443570EE.6080703@seclark.us> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Alexey Karagodov , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disappointed X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:06:46 -0000 Stephen Clark wrote: > [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: > >> Alexey Karagodov wrote: >> >> >>> hi. >>> i think, this unstablity happaning just because developers trying to >>> make >>> two systems at one time, one is 6.0 and another 7.0 current and they >>> supporting old version, lower then 6.0 >>> i want to ask developers, why you developing new system, 7.0, if you >>> don't >>> finish old, 6.0 ?! >>> finish 6.0, make it work, and upgrade it to 7.0 and to 8.0 and to 9.0 >>> and so >>> on ... >>> what so new and revolutionary in 7.0 in comparison with 6.0 ?! >>> to use your system i must be a DEVELOPER, but i don't have so much >>> time! i >>> don't want to develope! i want to use, i want to help you with some >>> advise ( >>> e.g. what feature to add, what feature to change etc), i can and i >>> want to >>> share some of my hardware to feet your needs, make a mirror, make a test >>> server/workstation/notebook/PDA etc. i'm not an freebsd developer. >>> i'm just >>> admin and a user. >>> your system is most greatest i ever seen. another wonderful system is >>> SOLARIS. >>> but your's is so unstable ... >>> >> >> All this is described in many places. It all comes down to this: if you >> don't want to be a developer, JUST USE THE RELEASE BRANCH. That means >> Releng_6_0 for now. >> >> Stable only means compatible to previous versions of the same branch. >> Not that the system is stable. >> > Who in their right mind would think that "stable" actually means > "stable"!!! It does mean that the API is stable. /\ || So that you can use a driver written for 6.0 on any 6.x build. And that you can run software compiled for 6.0 on all following versions of the 6.x branch without a compatibility layer.