From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 18:58:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED8316A4CE for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:58:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.jazztel.es (smtp2.jazztel.es [62.14.3.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06F743D53 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:58:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from josemi@freebsd.jazztel.es) Received: from antivirus by smtp2.jazztel.es with antivirus id 1CACJx-0002DQ-00 Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:58:29 +0200 Received: from [212.106.207.12] (helo=rguez.homeunix.net) by smtp2.jazztel.es with esmtp id 1CACJw-0002DE-00 Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:58:28 +0200 Received: from localhost.redesjm.local (orion.redesjm.local [192.168.254.16]) by rguez.homeunix.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8MIwWNe045647; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:58:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from josemi@freebsd.jazztel.es) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:58:31 +0200 To: "Joe Marcus Clarke" References: <4151C2B8.2020707@marcuscom.com> From: "Jose M Rodriguez" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4151C2B8.2020707@marcuscom.com> User-Agent: Opera M2/7.60 (FreeBSD, build 793) X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir Milter 1.1-beta; AVE 6.27.0.11; VDF 6.27.0.67 (host: antares.redesjm.local) X-Virus-Scanned: by antivirus cc: x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Plans for after FreeBSD-5.3-RELEASE. X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 18:58:35 -0000 On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:21:44 -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Jose M Rodriguez wrote: > | > | Hi, > | > | After test FreeBSD-5.3-BETA5 + current ports, I'm very glad with how > | it's worked out. > | > | But I'm not convince about how X11, gnome and kde works together. > | > | I've to develop a NetWS / Kiosk for a customer and need to work on > this. > > GNOME has been adding quite a few lock-down features to aid in these > types of deployments. I would be very interested in knowing how they > work out for you. First giving some help at request. I'm pretty familiar KDE, but and sporadic gnome user. > > | > | Is anyone interested on that? > > I have always thought FreeBSD needed for desktop loving. I would be > interested in helping with any project that makes FreeBSD more > desktop-friendly. > > | > | My TODO List is now by that: > | > | - Plans for moving/merging X11 config form /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ to > | /etc/X11/ > | + seems to be most Linux/Unix trends > | + easier WS setup. > > This is a mistake, IMHO. FreeBSD's model is not to put ports > configuration files in /etc. In fact, the PAM files in /etc/pam.d now > are rumored to me moving out to ${LOCALBASE} and ${X11BASE}. > As a general rule, I agree, but for sharing /usr ia a little nigthmare. Taking XINITDIR and XDMDIR from ${PREFIX}/lib/X11 to /etc/X11 is not so bad idea. I'm not so sure about other thinks that live under ${PREFIX}/lib/X11/ I think having Xorg, XDM and xinit conf, Xresources ... under /etc/X11/ is really a good idea. > | > | - Plans to work and standard FreeBSD way to X11 > | + An implementation guide common to x11/gnome/kde (document -> > | article | handbook) > | + FreeBSD specific support for xinit/xdm config (~/.xinitrc ...) > | + rcNG support for x11 > | * /etc/rc.d/xdm. operative and valid for gdm/kdm/xdm > | * /etc/rc.d/xfs? we need a font server with libXFT trends? > | * /etc/rc.d/xserver. Xserver init for XDMCP (XTerminal) > | * /etc/rc.d/xinit. Special init via xinit. > > I have a patch for rcNG support for gdm that will be going in after the > freeze. > I just made a post on this. I think that making /etc/rc.d/xdm operative is a better idea. > | > | - Plans to work on a FreeBSD 'feeling'. Same fonts, ... > | + tweaks to apps-defaults, gnome and kde config. > | + common process of resources. Xresources , Xmodmap, ... > | > | - Plans to specific support for NetBooting. NetWS, XTerminals, Kiosk > | > | - Plans to specific support easy thenmeing 'a la FreeBSD'. > > This sounds like a good project in and of itself (i.e. FreeBSD Desktop > Project). > > Joe > Thanks for your comments, -- josemi -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/