From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 04:42:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8EDD1065670 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 04:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel@digsys.bg) Received: from smtp-sofia.digsys.bg (smtp-sofia.digsys.bg [193.68.3.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389088FC0A for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 04:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.68.136.207] (digsys207-136.pip.digsys.bg [193.68.136.207]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-sofia.digsys.bg (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q524gKUO017255 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 2 Jun 2012 07:42:21 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from daniel@digsys.bg) References: <20120601121555.GF5335@home.opsec.eu> <4FC8B67D.5090208@digsys.bg> <31DFBF41-37EC-43CF-A555-2D4E46F1F6E2@ee.ryerson.ca> In-Reply-To: <31DFBF41-37EC-43CF-A555-2D4E46F1F6E2@ee.ryerson.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) From: Daniel Kalchev Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 07:42:27 +0300 To: David Magda Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 04:42:27 -0000 On 02.06.2012, at 03:06, David Magda wrote: > On Jun 1, 2012, at 08:33, Daniel Kalchev wrote: >=20 >> For example if one wants an e-mail server, that is better served in the l= ong run by IMAP+MTA than any form of Exchange, because you are not tied to o= ne single platform and that vendor's lunacy. Otherwise FreeBSD runs just fin= e as server for about any other OS client, provided those clients use standa= rd Internet protocols. >=20 > If all you want is e-mail, then there are certainly better options than Ex= change IMHO. However, once you get into calendars (private and shared, with d= elegation to secretaries, etc.), meeting rooms, ActiveSync (to remotely wipe= lost devices), then it's a whole different game. There are a lot of open source calendaring applications, of all kinds. Most r= un fine on FreeBSD. I really see no reason why your 'mail or calendaring server' should be able t= o wipe your devices.. This is the sort of bloat that keeps me away. =46rom M= icrosoft products. >=20 > E-mail was solved a long time ago, but Exchange does many things on top of= it that many organizations find very handy, and where there doesn't seem to= be a decent open alternative. >=20 Hope you are not of the opinion that first there was Exchange, then all othe= r e-mail servers appeared, "copying" it. History was exactly the other way a= round. We were using it long before Microsoft discovered this Internet thing= exists and first tried to kill it. Again it is not about open source. It is about non-proprietary protocols. Al= l proprietary platforms turn to be more expensive in every respect in a whil= e. In this regard I rather prefer the way Apple handles things. Shiny wrapper i= nterface to pretty much generic technology. No reinvention of the wheel and e= xperiments to see if it can be made square. Daniel=