pgp:blahblahblah:mime-version: content-type:content-transfer-encoding:author:from:subject:date:to:cc: resent-author:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender:resent-to:resent-cc: resent-reply-to:resent-message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version: content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:content-id: content-description:message-id:mail-followup-to:openpgp:blahblahblah; bh=1OAQr82GdP4qLg+uE/s0buOO3fQPbMpyO6nW9gNgHrc=; b=dDD5PtDm+PXgwmsW7o+fP84tGyQz69U1i5Xck745vm6+U68/xS3eiYM9p3MZ39Zqj/kWg1wp Y/PMCgT+3KGNCg== Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 00:27:00 +0200 Author: Steffen Nurpmeso From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: FreeBSD Hackers Cc: Chris , Aryeh Friedman , Mark Delany Subject: Re: Removing "CMOS clock set to UTC" question Message-ID: <20240612222700.emGJ-jBv@steffen%sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: <9c225c520e12b279ac6d19df7ebeec9f@bsdforge.com> References: <0.2.0-final-1718212027.814-0x75c1f0@qmda.emu.st> <26eaa45fec5b95b6a00948d45aaea927@bsdforge.com> <9c225c520e12b279ac6d19df7ebeec9f@bsdforge.com> User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.24-621-g0d1e55f367 OpenPGP: id=EE19E1C1F2F7054F8D3954D8308964B51883A0DD; url=https://ftp.sdaoden.eu/steffen.asc; preference=signencrypt BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15987, ipnet:217.144.128.0/20, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4W00XH3gMxz4TvW Chris wrote in <9c225c520e12b279ac6d19df7ebeec9f@bsdforge.com>: |On 2024-06-12 13:44, Aryeh Friedman wrote: |> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 3:08=E2=80=AFPM Chris = wrote: |>> On 2024-06-12 10:07, Mark Delany wrote: |>>> On 12Jun24, Ed Maste apparently wrote: |>>>> Our installer asks (via tzsetup): |>>>> |>>>>> Is this machine's CMOS clock set to UTC? If it is set to local tim= e, |>>>>> or you don't know, please choose NO here! ... ..and wouldn't it be possible to show the actual computer time, ie, interpreted / shown as UTC? I also feel unsure each and every time. (UTC feels not natural to me, .. but actually results in the desired behaviour.) --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)