From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 23 18:07:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0BF16A421 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6551D13C45B for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A10654FD for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:07:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:07:42 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <6453DAA1532FE742E7057C08@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: RE: are we CRIMINALS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:07:43 -0000 --On Tuesday, January 22, 2008 21:57:22 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Paul Schmehl >> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:25 AM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: are we CRIMINALS? >> >> >> --On Tuesday, January 22, 2008 13:03:27 +0100 Wojciech Puchar >> wrote: >> >> > http://www.spamsuite.com/node/351 >> > >> > jest first step to criminalize unix at all >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> We aren't criminals, but *he* is. >> > > Paul, you do realize that Sierra is a known newsgroup spammer and > that the lawsuit in question was just filed against a spamfighter > by a spammer? > Yes. > Also, that the "judgement" that is in the post is actually > a prepared order, written by Plaintiff's counsel, it wasn't > written by the judge. > Yes. > This case is sitting in the appellate courts somewhere, gathering > dust. Nobody has paid anything to anybody, except to the lawyers. > Sierra makes their money selling to morons what Google gives > out for free. > > Please, unless your willing to do the research, don't waste > time commenting. > He disobeyed a court order. That makes him a criminal. Whether what he was trying to do was "right" or not is irrelevant. Once the court told him to stop, he should have stopped. And yes, I know full well that bad people take advantage of our courts every day. -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/