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Date:      Tue, 7 Jul 2015 12:21:58 +0200
From:      John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st>
To:        Vsevolod Stakhov <vsevolod@FreeBSD.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r391493 - head/cad/tkgate
Message-ID:  <559BA846.4030506@marino.st>
In-Reply-To: <559BA55C.2080701@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201507070635.t676Zaqw085725@repo.freebsd.org> <559B9C36.2060300@FreeBSD.org> <559BA1B2.4050002@marino.st> <559BA55C.2080701@FreeBSD.org>

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On 7/7/2015 12:09 PM, Vsevolod Stakhov wrote:
> 
> I've checked iconv.mk and that's why I'm writing this message. It is
> broken by definition. It doesn't follow the sane semantics of options
> (obviously, `build` and `lib` are *NOT* mutually exclusive as they are
> currently).

"lib" includes "build", always.
At best its redundant.  However, this is out of scope for me.  Open a PR
on it if you feel that strongly about it.


>> It means the libc iconv isn't good enough and you need the ports
>> libiconv.
> 
> Ok, so it's the new definition of 'translit' term isn't it? No it is
> not! The proper name for this option should be something like 'port'
> and not 'translit'.

too snarky, won't respond to this.

>>> Thirdly, isn't it a polite policy to send a notice to a
>>> maintainer *before* committing some change to port?
>>
>> If the port is broken, it's broken. "Just fix it" means if somebody
>> knows how to fix breakage shown on portsmon, we can do.   (You're
>> welcome; I did send a courtesy message seconds after this commit)
> 
> It seems that you don't understand the word 'polite' as well.


Everything I did was permissible.  I did not have to send the followup
message, I did that out of courtesy.  I am not required to "be polite"
as you define it.  I feel that I was courteous and I'm sorry you don't
think so.



>> Weren't you getting pkg-fallout messages for FreeBSD 11? The
>> problem is with the port. iconv changed on FreeBSD 11.
> 
> I got messages from pkg-fallout but was too busy to figure out the
> problem. And the problem seems to be in iconv.mk from my point of view.

Even if you disagree on how iconv.mk *should be* you clearly misused it
as it was.  So I don't agree that it was the "problem".  You had at
least 4 days (probably longer) to figure it out.  Isn't that enough?


> Correct, I haven't mention that it was in the ports tree unless I'd
> commited it. Anyway, I can see the whole history in git:
> https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-ports/commits/master/cad/tkgate/

hmm?  Oh, I guess you didn't realize.
Linimon had to remove the entry from MOVED:
http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/MOVED?r1=390929&r2=390941




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