From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 07:00:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A46316A4CE for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 07:00:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpha.siliconlandmark.com (alpha.siliconlandmark.com [209.69.98.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F6543D3F for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 07:00:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@siliconlandmark.com) Received: from alpha.siliconlandmark.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i07F0CZV014552; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:00:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from andy@siliconlandmark.com) Received: from localhost (andy@localhost)i07F0BHt014549; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:00:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from andy@siliconlandmark.com) X-Authentication-Warning: alpha.siliconlandmark.com: andy owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:00:11 -0500 (EST) From: Andre Guibert de Bruet To: "Daniel O'Connor" In-Reply-To: <200401072219.18917.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Message-ID: <20040107095618.X9356@alpha.siliconlandmark.com> References: <200401070818.i078IF7E015950@gw.catspoiler.org> <200401072219.18917.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Crashes with AMD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 15:00:23 -0000 On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On Wednesday 07 January 2004 18:48, Don Lewis wrote: > > Back when Via allowed mere mortals to download their chipset manuals, I > > looked at the KT266, KT333 and/or KT400 manuals and they seemed to claim > > ECC support. I never found any motherboards using these chipsets that > > supported ECC RAM. These days the tech support links on their chipset > > My experience also :( > > > pages lead to pages full of press releases. I think Via only releases > > chipset manuals to their "partners" these days. About the only Athlon > > XP motherboards that I've found that support ECC use the AMD-761 > > chipset. Unfortunately these don't support the newer Athlon XPs and they > > seem to be disappearing from the market. They ones that are left are > > really inexpensive, though. The Gigabyte GA7-DX+ I bought about a year > > or so ago was very reasonably priced at the time and performs well. My > > suspicion is that the recent lack of ECC support may be due to AMD > > wanting to move "serious" users over to their new 64 bit architecture. > > Maybe, it seems to me that there is a huge gap between desktop and server.. > I stopped buying 'server' boards for work when they started having dual > ethernet and dual U160 SCSI - it is pointless to have such things for a > system which doesn't do much IO (ie use an IDE disk) and only has a modem > connection.. > Unfortunately there is not much of a middle ground, and ECC supporting boards > are hard to find if you don't want server boards (at least in my neck of the > woods). I'd be happy to be proved wrong :) How about the Asus A7M-266D? Dual proc (AMD) board that does ECC DDR, doesn't have silly things such as onboard swiss army knifes, SCSI controllers or built-in ethernet. It makes a perfect workstation at a reasonable price. My two desktops are based on this board and they've been rock solid. Regards, > Andre Guibert de Bruet | Enterprise Software Consultant > > Silicon Landmark, LLC. | http://siliconlandmark.com/ >