From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 23 10:54:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mg-20425418-10.ricochet.net [204.254.18.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C590237B583 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:54:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01378; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:54:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200003231854.KAA01378@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: John Reynolds~ Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What does "Voxware still supported in 4.0" mean exactly? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:43:16 MST." <14554.26052.433543.757976@hip186.ch.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:54:43 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Thank you Brad, this is the underlying point of my original message. I guess I > didn't state it clearly enough. I wouldn't mind doing the above either. There > have been mentions of "why doesn't somebody start a ``hardware for FreeBSD > developer's fund''?" on these lists before. I don't really remember the > details of the answers received--suffice to say that the jist of the answer > was "we already use CD profit sales to buy hardware." No, that doesn't suffice. Donations to FreeBSD Inc. have always been used for the best interests of the project; this includes buying hardware as required or as incentives to developers that have put in stellar efforts. > If there is simply a communication problem here, let's try to overcome it. > i.e. developers *have* hardware but can't find that one "special" card they > want--or don't have the resources to get the "latest" card they're dying to > tear into. Let's publicize both cases if they exist so that no needless > yelling back and forth happens and we can move the project further ahead. You appear to be largely ignoring one of my jobs. 8) I've been one of the people responsible for making this happen for a while now, so don't be so surprised that I'm a little ticked off that you don't seem to have noticed. Suffice it to say, perhaps, that as a general rule hardware _does_ end up in the hands of people that can do something with it, and that this hardware comes from wherever seems to be the most effective source at the time. We don't make a lot of noise about it at least in part because this isn't about making noise, it's about getting things done. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message