Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2022 12:49:37 +0000 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien_BINI?= <Sebastien.BINI@stormshield.eu> To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org> Subject: chflags schg on secure level higher than 0 Message-ID: <53b63813561d464289c2727c09000a14@stormshield.eu>
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--_000_53b63813561d464289c2727c09000a14stormshieldeu_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have been playing with secure levels on FreeBSD, in an attempt to further= improve the security of our FreeBSD products. The combination of secure le= vel and the system immutable flag is quite appealing as we can then protect= sensitive files. However I am concerned by the fact that the schg flag can still be added re= gardless of the secure level. That means that anyone with root access could= add this flag on unexpected files, which may lead to some programs malfunc= tions (in our case, some well placed flag may even prevent any software upg= rade...). Once they are set, those flags are difficult to remove because of= the secure level. I would have found more logical that the secure level higher than 0 would s= imply prevent any SF_* flag from being set. We could easily write some MAC = callback to protect ourselves against this, but is there a reason I am not = seeing on why this is not the default behavior? Why does FreeBSD allow sett= ing the schg flag if the secure level is 1 or higher? Best regards, S=E9bastien --_000_53b63813561d464289c2727c09000a14stormshieldeu_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-= 1"> <style type=3D"text/css" style=3D"display:none;"><!-- P {margin-top:0;margi= n-bottom:0;} --></style> </head> <body dir=3D"ltr"> <div id=3D"divtagdefaultwrapper" style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:#000000;font= -family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;" dir=3D"ltr"> <p>Hi,</p> <p><br> </p> <p>I have been playing with secure levels on FreeBSD, in an attempt to furt= her improve the security of our FreeBSD products. The combination of secure= level and the system immutable flag is quite appealing as we can then prot= ect sensitive files.</p> <p><br> </p> <p>However I am concerned by the fact that the schg flag can still be added= regardless of the secure level. That means that anyone with root access co= uld add this flag on unexpected files, which may lead to some programs malf= unctions (in our case, some well placed flag may even prevent any software upgrade...). Once they are set, = those flags are difficult to remove because of the secure level.</p> <p><br> </p> <p>I would have found more logical that the secure level higher than 0 woul= d simply prevent any SF_* flag from being set. We could easily write some M= AC callback to protect ourselves against this, but is there a reason I am n= ot seeing on why this is not the default behavior? Why does FreeBSD allow setting the schg flag if the secu= re level is 1 or higher?</p> <p><br> </p> <p>Best regards,</p> <p>S=E9bastien<br> </p> </div> </body> </html> --_000_53b63813561d464289c2727c09000a14stormshieldeu_--
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