From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jul 17 14:26:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26199 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:26:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from binky.demon.co.uk (binky.demon.co.uk [158.152.218.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA26063 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:26:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillistsubs@binky.demon.co.uk) Received: from binky.demon.co.uk ([158.152.218.245]) by binky.demon.co.uk with SMTP (Mailtraq/1.0.0.984) id BNKY385456DB for newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:25:26 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:25:26 +0100 Message-ID: <01BDB1D1.CBE055C0.maillistsubs@binky.demon.co.uk> From: Neil Ford Reply-To: "neil@binky.demon.co.uk" To: "newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: Don't log onto current.freebsd.org... Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:20:00 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Hops: 1 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday, July 15, 1998 9:46 AM, Donald Burr [SMTP:dburr@POBoxes.com] wrote: > * ADVOCACY. Plain and simple, FreeBSD is not a household word yet. Linux > is much more in that direction than FreeBSD is -- ask a corporation's IS > department if they've heard of Linux, they will probably say "yes." We > need the word out -- if the company where you work needs a quick Internet > solution (e.g. a webserver, mailserver, whatever), go to the IS department > and preach FreeBSD. Give them a copy of your CD (this is a GREAT use for > older FreeBSD CD's -- if you bought 2.2.6 and you still have 2.2.5 sitting > around, hand it over! They don't necessarily need to see the latest and > greatest, just for a demo. > Ummm... done this one :-) The place where I work wanted to build an FTP server for it's overseas developers to use rather than have them dial in to the network. Great idea! Don't have to support international dial-up connections and it's cheaper for the developers. Problem 1 They wanted to run it on NT. Why? Because every other server within the division was NT and that was obviously the way to go! (No flames please, just read to the end :-) After much discussion sense was seen and it was agreed that we would do it on Unix. Success you might think, but no... the plot thickens. Problem 2 Having got the Network Manager's buy in (he was actually in favour from the outset. long story) we move onto deciding the actual OS. Wanting to keep the spend low it's agreed that we will use one of the 'free' unixes. Okay think I, things are going to plan.... wrong! To a person they all pipe up and say 'So we're using Linux then'. Okay, uphill struggle number two :-) Did some major explaining, showed them ftp.cdrom.com (and the articles in the newsletters), posed the question as to why a lot of ISPs seemed to use FreeBSD but not many (any?) used Linux. Finally the penny dropped. End result: the ftp server will be implemented on FreeBSD. I even had the pleasure of going and getting a copy of The Complete FreeBSD for them (I think the guy in the bookshop thought I was crazy, I'd only bought mine about two weeks ago :-) Not a major breakthrough maybe, but it is a start. They are now talking about putting a DNS in place and seem to be warming to the idea of not doing that on NT either. So you never know.... Next up: moving all my personal machines over to FreeBSD. Neil. ------------ Neil C. Ford (neil@binky.demon.co.uk) http://www.binky.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message