From owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 03:00:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41095D7C for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338CBE52 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0F301p8067494 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:00:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r0F301LI067493; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:00:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:00:01 GMT Message-Id: <201301150300.r0F301LI067493@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Allen Landsidel Subject: Re: bin/166589: atacontrol(8) incorrectly treats RAID10 and 0+1 the same X-BeenThere: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Allen Landsidel List-Id: Bug reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:00:02 -0000 The following reply was made to PR bin/166589; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Allen Landsidel To: Alexander Motin Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: bin/166589: atacontrol(8) incorrectly treats RAID10 and 0+1 the same Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:51:35 -0500 They are not variants in terminology, they are different raid levels. Raid0+1 is two RAID-0 arrays, mirrored into a RAID-1. if one of the disks fails, that entire RAID-0 is offline and must be rebuilt, and all redundancy is lost. A RAID-10 is composed of N raid-1 disks combined into a RAID-0. If one disk fails, only that particular RAID-1 is degraded, and the redundancy of the others is maintained. 0+1 cannot survive two failed disks no matter how many are in the array. 10 can survive half the disks failing, if it's the right half. This is something people who've never used more than 4 disks fail to grasp, but those of us with 6 (or many many more) know very well. On 1/14/2013 21:46, Alexander Motin wrote: > There could be variants in terminology, but in fact for most of users > they are the same. If you have opinion why they should be treated > differently, please explain it. >