From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 18:25:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976A116A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:25:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from phantom.keystreams.com (phantom.keystreams.com [207.158.28.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7566543D1F for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:25:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from volfman@keystreams.com) Received: (qmail 1741 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2004 02:25:43 -0000 Received: from ts46-01-qdr1564.wvlle.ca.charter.com (HELO keystreams.com) (66.189.142.28) by mail.keystreams.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2004 02:25:43 -0000 Message-ID: <40132999.3020906@keystreams.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:27:37 -0800 From: Roman Volf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030507 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: glebius@cell.sick.ru References: <4012E087.4080504@mr0vka.eu.org> <4012E2F2.2000108@keystreams.com> <20040124215019.GD987@complx.LF.net> In-Reply-To: <20040124215019.GD987@complx.LF.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BGP4 using FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 02:25:44 -0000 Kurt Jaeger wrote: >Hi! > > > >>When building your router be sure not to use hard drives, but get an >>IDE-to-CF adapter and use CompactFlash cards. Less moving parts = better >>when you're talking about a router. >> >> > >We have and had SCSI disks in our freebsd based core routers >(core.LF.net, core3.LF.net, core.oberon.net) since 1996. > >Disks were never the relevant topic. Basically, those systems >just worked. Yes, they need a little hand-holding, but not because >of the disks. > > > Well that may be, but why risk having a hard drive go out? Flash memory most definatley outlasts traditional hard drives. And if its just doing routing, a 256 MB flash card is more than enough to do everything you need. As for the adapters, you don't need any drivers or anything. Here is one company that makes them: http://www.acscontrol.com/Index_ACS.asp?Page=/Pages/Products/CompactFlash/IDE_To_CF_Adapter.htm FreeBSD will just see the flash card as an IDE drive. I haven't used these myself though, so I can't vouch for their stability. Search around on google for people that use them in production. -- Roman Volf Keystreams Internet Solutions (619) 572-2062