From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 22 17:30:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D3C16A422; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:30:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (69.50.233.168.ip.nectartech.com [69.50.233.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA39643D6A; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:30:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 8A43D1D7497C; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:30:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:30:09 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Joel Dahl Message-ID: <20060222173009.GA64282@freebsdmall.com> References: <200602211929.k1LJTTAH060389@repoman.freebsd.org> <200602211556.34034.jhb@freebsd.org> <20060222011622.GB11099@freebsdmall.com> <20060222072508.GA862@zaphod.nitro.dk> <20060222084341.GB35526@freebsdmall.com> <1140616803.681.30.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1140616803.681.30.camel@dude.automatvapen.se> X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: doc@freebsd.org, "Simon L. Nielsen" Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/share/sgml includes.navdevelopers.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:30:15 -0000 On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 03:00:03PM +0100, Joel Dahl wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 00:43 -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 08:25:09AM +0100, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > > > It has been linked from the public pages for the last 7 years: > > > > > > http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/www/en/search/index-site.sgml.diff?r1=1.16&r2=1.17 > > > > Some of the content that is in internal/ but that is inappropriate for > > wide consumption includes: > > > > * Inaccurate FTP download statistics. These numbers dramatically > > underestimate the number of FreeBSD downloads and could be used by > > others to paint an unflattering picture of FreeBSD popularity. We > > should not point to these on our public website as authoritative > > information about FreeBSD usage. > > http://www.freebsd.org/statistic/release_usage/images/ > > > > * Development machine resource lists in rtp.freebsd.org, etc. > > If this information is "inappropriate", then remove it. It is inappropriate for wide consumption, as I said above, but not inappropriate in general. New committers need information about machines/accounts available for committers and a little intranet-like area works well for that purpose. Please just let me know what information you want to be made public, and lets talk about the best way to link to it. The 'Internal Pages' link is a big regression and most of the information there can be found more directly. Main page -> development -> release engineering makes more sense than Main page -> intranet -> release engineering The things that are not available from some more direct second level page are mostly those that are not relevant for the public, which is why I keep asking what content you are concerned about making more public? Adding lots of redundant links is one of the big problems we had with the old website and I do not want to go down that road again. > > You still haven't answered about the motivation for this or what > > content you would like to see made more public. > > Simon has nothing to do with this, please check your facts. I apologized to him for directing it at the wrong person right after I send that. - Murray