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Date:      Tue, 15 May 2001 15:38:12 -0600
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Alex Zepeda <jazepeda@pacbell.net>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: Opera ports to QNX but not BSD
Message-ID:  <4.3.2.7.2.20010515153137.044ee4d0@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <20010515142152.A12190@xor.obsecurity.org>
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At 03:21 PM 5/15/2001, Kris Kennaway wrote:

>"No, no, please don't give us your wads of money, IBM, it will be bad
>for our business." Right-o, Brett.

If IBM distracts Opera from a larger and more lucrative market,
then, yes, it's bad for Opera's business. What's more, IBM is not
in the habit of just giving companies wads of money. Like many
large companies, it often provides a small amount of money and hints 
that larger amounts may follow. But they often don't. Doing business
with a large company such as IBM is a big risk.

>It seems you've confused chat@FreeBSD.org with a Wind River
>suggestions box.

A number of people who care about the future of Wind River and
BSDi are present here. There's certainly nothing wrong with
giving them a "heads up" in this forum, especially when an
announcement indicates that a competitor is gaining an edge.

>> Of course, we might have seen a BSD port much sooner had the BSDs
>> not made the incredibly unwise mis-step of incorporating support
>> for Linux binaries. By doing this rather than making a BSD API
>> emulator for Linux, they've guaranteed that Linux development
>> will come first and BSD development last. This is just one more
>> case where it's happened.
>
>Yeah, that would have been a smart move..then I just couldn't run
>Opera on FreeBSD at all.  That would certainly show them.

In fact, it would. They developed for BeOS, for example, because
BeOS users couldn't just muddle through with emulation/binary
compatibility. The presence of the Linux ABI relegated the BSDs
to the back burner.

>P.S. Just so you know, when you turn this thread into one of your
>interminable rants about the mistakes FreeBSD is making and how you
>have all the answers about what we should be doing, I will be firmly
>ignoring you.

You are perfectly within your rights to ignore me if you so choose.
But it seems to me that this would be playing "ostrich," as so many
in the BSD world seem to do.

--Brett Glass



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