From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 14 18:54:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA24378 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:54:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA24369 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:54:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01436; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:54:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA17745; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:54:04 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:54:04 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711150254.TAA17745@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Chuck Robey Cc: Julian Elischer , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SUID-Directories patch In-Reply-To: References: <346CDDE4.5656AEC7@whistle.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ Where does experimental code go? ] > I'm not sure that hackers is the right place for this (current would IMO > be more correct) but I have to say that I feel Julian has a strong point, > current _is_ the place for experimentation. It would be different if the > code that he's bringing in was non-functional, but it isn't. The code isn't non-functional, but it is dys-functional. I think that's the crux of Jordan argument, that it isn't up to the users/developers of -current to flesh out/finish the work. Or even 'macro-debug' it. Hopefully by the time the code is in -current it's 'mostly working', with bugs that can only be found by large-scale testing, and not missing large pieces of necessary functionality. Saying it works 'most of the time, except when you have more than one disk' is like saying the code works on all machines except those machines who run X, which it doesn't work on. Nate