From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 16 16:08:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C611A1E for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:08:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.org) Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (relay5-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4841DD0 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:08:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mfilter9-d.gandi.net (mfilter9-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.138]) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A676541C056; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 18:07:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter9-d.gandi.net Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]) by mfilter9-d.gandi.net (mfilter9-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d0Zlu2Rr8pVp; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 18:07:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 76.102.14.35 Received: from jdc.koitsu.org (c-76-102-14-35.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [76.102.14.35]) (Authenticated sender: jdc@koitsu.org) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B772A41C06F; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 18:07:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DC17073A1C; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:07:52 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Michiel Boland Subject: Re: system sporadically hangs on shutdown after switching to WITH_NEW_XORG Message-ID: <20130616160752.GA26518@icarus.home.lan> References: <51BDD593.5000102@xs4all.nl> <20130616153710.GT91021@kib.kiev.ua> <51BDDE64.2040801@xs4all.nl> <20130616155502.GA26171@icarus.home.lan> <51BDE16D.3080903@xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51BDE16D.3080903@xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Konstantin Belousov , FreeBSD Stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:08:08 -0000 On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 06:01:49PM +0200, Michiel Boland wrote: > On 06/16/2013 17:55, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > [...] > > >Are you running moused(8)? Actually, I can see quite clearly that you > >are in your core.txt: > > > >Starting ums0 moused. > > > >Try turning that off. Don't ask me how, because devd(8) / devd.conf(5) > >might be involved. > > > > The moused is started by devd - I don't see a quick way of turning that off. Comment out the relevant crap in devd.conf(5). Search for "ums" and comment out the two "notify" sections. > As a workaround I'm trying to run a kernel with > > options SC_NO_SYSMOUSE > > to see if the hangs go away. That's one way to do it, I guess. Be aware that I do not use X, however I have repeatedly seen mentioned on these lists problems/complexities from where people rely on moused(8) to "drive their mouse" while inside of X (or possibly that X and moused(8) are both simultaneously polling the mouse). There's apparently a very specific kind of X configuration you're supposed to use to get proper mouse/keyboard/HAL/HID/whatever support, and tons of people have it wrongt. Warren Block I think has some insights into this, or could maybe help shed some light on what I'm remembering. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc@koitsu.org | | UNIX Systems Administrator http://jdc.koitsu.org/ | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP 4BD6C0CB |