From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Mar 26 7: 6: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cise.ufl.edu (beach.cise.ufl.edu [128.227.205.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46A537B405 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 07:06:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from shine.cise.ufl.edu (shine.cise.ufl.edu [128.227.205.227]) by mail.cise.ufl.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25106ACD for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:06:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from nthomas@localhost) by shine.cise.ufl.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA24160 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:06:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:06:02 -0500 From: "N. Thomas" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: American programmers (was SPAM Re: Software Outsourcing From India) Message-ID: <20020326150602.GB23651@cise.ufl.edu> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <03be01c1d446$4c83f480$0801a8c0@lan.1729.net> <20020325215521.48735.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020325215521.48735.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Wayne Lubin [2002-03-25]: > > > Stay in your own country and stop taking jobs from American > > > Programmers. > > > > Thanks for sharing your refreshing view. I thought this was an > > international mailing list. > > Yes it is an international mailing list for help and questions on freebsd. > It is not a mailing list to try and take jobs away from American > programmers. Right now there are no jobs for programmers is the usa > because a ton of the jobs have been taken by h1-b visa people. You > understand? The original poster should have never spammed the list -- but I think you should know that programmers from other countries don't simply come over and "take jobs away" from American programmers. CEOs and managers of American software companies are largely to fault for this, they know that foreign programmers are *much* cheaper than their American counterparts and so they beg Congress for more visas, etc. In the early 90's they even went so far as to claim a programmer shortage...see this paper for more info on that: Debunking the Myth of a Desperate Software Labor Shortage http://home.sch.bme.hu/~bartoki/misc/devshortage/DeveloperShortageHypeReviewed.html Bottom line, you can't blame programmers from other countries for wanting to come here when people here are egging them to come over. -- N. Thomas nthomas@cise.ufl.edu Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message