From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 1 15:45: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A833637B400; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 15:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from canning.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A9543E3B; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 15:44:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by canning.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4CC2A893; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 15:44:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: GCC 3.2 in progress In-Reply-To: <20020901152935.P16984-100000@wonky.feral.com> Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 15:44:55 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20020901224455.9D4CC2A893@canning.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Jacob wrote: > The point here is that major changes need to be very visible on a > product's schedule. You can argue that it isn't a major change- but I'd > assert that any toolchain change *is* a major change. re@ have been practically begging for it. > I'm *not* arguing against the change- I don't know nearly enough to have > an opinion. I *am* commenting on how major changes coming in with little > notice often add substantial delays. Furthermore, lack of putting such > changes up in such a fashion that a folks in distributed development > environment can then adequately plan/protect themselves so *their* stuff > is protected is also an issue. > > Look- if Alexander hadn't said anything, I *probably* wouldn't have > noticed. However, he felt that this was important enough to tease > people with a "10 minutes until the bombs start falling" mail message. > It's not unreasonable to raise this as an issue. Umm. Are you reading your -developers mail? === begin quote === Subject: Re: A plea for a 5.0-RELEASE .. From: Alexander Kabaev Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 23:26:09 -0400 (20:26 PDT) To: developers@FreeBSD.org On Sat, 31 Aug 2002 20:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Robert Watson wrote: > If we can manage it, we also need a compiler upgrade for the base > system. Right now we can't build usable gif support in QT with the > base system g++, we have to install a port. I am testing a buildworld with GCC 3.2 after Heimdal upgrade. If nothing goes wrong, I plan to import GCC 3.2 tomorrow. My home machine is running kernel/buildworld compiled with 3.2 already. === end quote === And then there was quite a bit of followup about it. It has already been established that everybody wanted it, and that it has been tested on i386 and alpha, and the sparc64 folks want it very badly too. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message