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Date:      Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:23:03 +0200
From:      "Mustafa N. Deeb" <mustafa@palnet.com>
To:        Ramiro =?iso-8859-1?Q?V=E1zquez?= <lrvazquez@megared.net.mx>, <freebsd-ipfw@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Using ipfw to make a "Dynamic NAT depending of protocol L7"
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020122192225.00b4c9c0@mail.palnet.com>
In-Reply-To: <008101c1a368$f23b1890$1500a8c0@corp.megared.net.mx>

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well,

the msn guys, say that MSN behind private addressing wont' work unless you
use  a socks server.. ONLY...

CHeers


At 11:19 AM 1/22/2002 -0600, Ramiro V=E1zquez wrote:
>Hi,
>
>     We work at a cable-ISP and we are using NAT & PAT to provide enough IP
>Addresses to our customers.
>
>     We have experienced problems with certains applications, mostly with
>peer to peer applications like MSN Messenger.
>     Some features like send files function don't work.
>     We put a sniffer and discover that when one of our customer try to=
 send
>a file to someone out of our net does this:
>     1.- The application opens a port ( 6891-6899 ).
>     2.- Sends the IP of the machine ( the private IP ) and the port that=
 is
>listening.
>     3.- The another peer try to connect to the private IP and the port=
 that
>it had received.
>     4.- The connection fails.
>
>     We modify a proxy to change the packet that the application sends with
>the private IP and the local port to replace them for a public IP and
>another port, then the proxy sends this changes to an application that just
>maps or forwards the port that we sent to the peer outside to the real IP
>and port of our costumer.
>
>     This solution works and we going to begin with the test with more
>connections, but maybe is not the best solution, one disadvantage is that
>the costumer must to specify a proxy and it's a hard work.
>
>     We think that if we could make this changes with ipfw or ip-filters=
 and
>then add a rule to natd or ip-nat to forward the port, it would be more
>efficient.
>
>     Then we can redirect the traffic of MSN to ipfw or ip-filters and make
>all transparent to our costumers.
>
>     We think that we can do this for the most important applications to
>solve this problem, and its very important because we use a lot of PAT and
>many applications can't work with the complete features.
>
>     Is it possible make this with ipfw ??   Is anybody working arround=
 this
>??
>
>     Any idea or comment would be helpful !!
>
>     Thanks.
>
>Ramiro Vazquez
>Megacable
>
>
>
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