From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 13:06:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC2A37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFCE43FA3 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:06:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 54CCF10BF8B; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:06:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:06:18 +0200 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030616200616.GE400@nitro.dk> References: <200306162015.06836.nakal@web.de> <20030616151024.0616e1e4.eaja@erols.com> <20030616191852.GA52694@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="o0ZfoUVt4BxPQnbU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030616191852.GA52694@ussenterprise.ufp.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: Drawing graphics on terminal X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:06:21 -0000 --o0ZfoUVt4BxPQnbU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.06.16 15:18:52 -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote: > In a message written on Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 03:10:24PM -0400, Eric Jacob= s wrote: > > I don't think the advantage of a GUI-based installer would be > > "eye-candy". libdialog looks fine IMO. It would be to increase the > > ease of use, allow more flexibility in installations, and add more > > troubleshooting/diagnostic options (disabling/enabling/loading > > device drivers, etc.) >=20 > Some of this could be done in the current installer, if there wasn't > an effort to make it still fit on a floppy. Mind you, I'd like to see > the floppy based install stick around for a while, but I think FreeBSD > needs to embrace the CD reality. >=20 > A problem, as I see it, is that the only bootable ISO is the full > FreeBSD CD. For someone who wants to do a minimal net-install on > a CD only computer that's too much. What I think needs to be done > is the current installer enhanced (a few more tools for the emergency > holographic shell, more help, etc), and produced in ISO form, eg a > 3 to maybe 10 meg ISO image you could burn on CD and use like a > floppy is used today. This is why there are mini CD's. E.g. :=20 -rw-rw-r-- 1 1005 1005 237M 5 Jun 18:49 5.1-RELEASE-i386-miniinst.= iso Of course it's not just the installer but also enough to install the base system. If you want only the install it should be very easy to make your own ISO with only floppies/boot.flp (2.8MB) which would then contain only the installer... I'm not really sure how many drivers boot.flp contains though. --=20 Simon L. Nielsen --o0ZfoUVt4BxPQnbU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+7iM48kocFXgPTRwRAhi2AJ9HwRbI/1q88DTddczsbjNAPCBKaQCfeeZm z0cy3NhjF9wlqZGxqeB3gEI= =SrZF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --o0ZfoUVt4BxPQnbU--