From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 06:40:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FDADEF1 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu [128.104.255.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18FF2B54 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA1338091; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 01:40:30 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at icecube.wisc.edu Received: from i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id 8XCWzv-uNqgu; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 01:40:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (polaris.tachypleus.net [75.101.50.44]) by i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CDB2438090; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 01:40:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <53D49EDC.3050301@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:40:28 -0700 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Millard , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based CD boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] References: <9104D42E-5A30-49AF-B5B8-F2C97090802F@dsl-only.net> <0E217B0D-233B-4698-B482-75C3BFE66638@dsl-only.net> In-Reply-To: <0E217B0D-233B-4698-B482-75C3BFE66638@dsl-only.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:40:32 -0000 Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a 10.0-STABLE image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK. What really perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders are identical, since loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super weird. I'll try to get it fixed. Thanks for the problem report and reminder! -Nathan On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote: > > To make clear about the "/" in the line: > > and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans > then gradually spin up. > > This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It > always stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that is > from the repeating sequence or is the leading / from > /boot/kernel/kernel. At this point I'm limited to reporting just the > visual result, not the internal stage it is tied to. > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard > wrote: > > First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the G5's > (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes are > easier to understand): > >> For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying >> >> loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf >> >> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans >> then gradually spin up. >> >> In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the >> line that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel > > The original messages were: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html > and > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html > > Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even > though /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. > > > > As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything yet. > And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks so I > will not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can try once I > get back. > > All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE > worked. Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: > Late April is about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. > > Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. > PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have > other kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) > > > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard > wrote: > > This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to > emulation (assuming it is the same problem in both places). > > I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same way/place > whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 10.0-STABLE .iso burned > to a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's .iso burned to a CD. I've > not tried emulation. > > Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and .txz > files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not > buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. > > My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were > reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) > > FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) boot > hangs very early in the process > > > Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso burned > to CD? A multi-processor one? > > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > >