From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 21 07:16:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9EF16A4DF for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 07:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED85F43D45 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 07:16:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-19-236.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.19.236]) by mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k6L7G7vL021440 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:16:08 +1000 Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6L7G7xI000974; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:16:07 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k6L7G710000973; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:16:07 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:16:07 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Intron Message-ID: <20060721071607.GA728@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20060720103228.GA716@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <1153397244.66653@origin.intron.ac> <20060720181216.GJ96589@funkthat.com> <1153452255.82099@origin.intron.ac> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1153452255.82099@origin.intron.ac> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Improving FreeBSD's hardware compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 07:16:16 -0000 --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2006-Jul-21 09:42:40 +0800, Intron wrote: >Oliver Fromme wrote: >>Yeah, most of which are crap. :-) The raw number of >>drivers says _nothing_ about hardware vendors' support. > >This is a problem of code quality. A driver that is effectively unusable is no better than no driver at all. The FreeBSD prefers to expend developer resources on providing a smaller number of drivers but have them actually work. >But at least Linux community has so many volunteers/vendors to write >drivers. quantity !=3D quality On Fri, 2006-Jul-21 11:18:07 +0800, Intron wrote: >3. Philips SAA 7130/7134, TV decoder > This is one of the most popular TV decoder chips on the market. >The data sheet can be obtained from the vendor, just as what Linux >community has done. You are wrong in two respects here. a) The publicly available datasheet does not provide programming details. The programming details are only available under NDA. b) FreeBSD _does_ have a driver for this chipset, available from download.purpe.com - which I am successfully using. > Although not all data sheets have been publicized by vendors, but >at least FreeBSDers can follow/keep up with Linux community, cannot we? Feel free to contribute. --=20 Peter Jeremy --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEwH81/opHv/APuIcRAs8dAJ9xbVEZEKHVA3kVJNjItKjIF6KDmwCgwb19 lmJwDIvtoEIEbiIErxfHH9Q= =Ld5O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V--