From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 23 11: 3:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mg-20425418-10.ricochet.net [204.254.18.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AE437C6E6 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:02:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01427; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:04:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200003231904.LAA01427@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: John Reynolds~ Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hardware (was: What does "Voxware still supported in 4.0" mean exactly?) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:23:09 MST." <14554.24845.963542.299903@hip186.ch.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 11:04:23 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > JUST HOLD ON THERE TEX!!!!!!! The first line of my message was: > > > > The following is not venom directed at jkh, or anybody in general--it is an > > repeat: "not venom". Also read in my message that I said I *know* that it is > regularly done (buying hardware and shipping it to developers). Which is why you ask: "shouldn't FreeBSD, Inc. or Walnut Creek itself be proactively shipping willing developers like this all the hardware they can purchase?" > Read what I said, then post your comments. A more appropriate response would > have simply been "some older cards are harder to find, if you or anyone within > earshot of this message has one we could use or buy, please let us know so we > can continue our regular program of buying hardware for developers." Are there > posts to freebsd-multimedia/-hardware asking if people have these older items > they are willing to donate? Might save a trip to Outer Mongolia. Again, this is the danger of walking into something and making assumptions. We've been there and done that (and are there, and are doing that) already. If you think that there's something that we ought to be doing, chances are pretty good that we've already thought of it as well, and if we're not doing it there's probably a good reason. 8) -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message