From owner-freebsd-hackers  Fri Nov 14 19:02:02 1997
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-hackers>
Received: (from root@localhost)
          by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA24909
          for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:02:02 -0800 (PST)
          (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers)
Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226])
          by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA24903
          for <hackers@freebsd.org>; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:01:59 -0800 (PST)
          (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com)
Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA14191; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:01:41 -0800 (PST)
To: Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
cc: Chuck Robey <chuckr@glue.umd.edu>, Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>,
        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: SUID-Directories patch 
In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:54:04 MST."
             <199711150254.TAA17745@rocky.mt.sri.com> 
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:01:41 -0800
Message-ID: <14187.879562901@time.cdrom.com>
From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
X-Loop: FreeBSD.org
Precedence: bulk

> The code isn't non-functional, but it is dys-functional.  I think that's
> the crux of Jordan argument, that it isn't up to the users/developers of
> -current to flesh out/finish the work.  Or even 'macro-debug' it.

Precisely.  History has also shown us that this invariably doesn't
even work, said code having a far greater tendency to rot rather than
get fixed.  Did not Julian himself start his defense of DEVFS with a
comment that he'd gotten none of the help he'd hoped for?

I rest my case. :)

					Jordan