From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 25 20:05:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4656716A4DF for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA93743D6A for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:05:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k6PK5KEo053521; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:05:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k6PK5Jnd053520; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:05:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:05:18 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Don Wilde Message-ID: <20060725200518.GA53427@thought.org> References: <20060725180632.GC30146@sun.unixguru.nl> <44C6632C.7010607@centtech.com> <86u055qzue.fsf@dellbeast.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making FreeBSD More Lean/Efficient On Older Laptop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:05:36 -0000 On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 02:01:42PM -0500, Don Wilde wrote: > On 7/25/06, Julian Stecklina wrote: > > > >Eric Anderson writes: > > > >> On 07/25/06 13:06, Richard Arends wrote: > >>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 01:59:28PM -0400, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote: > >>> Daniel, > >>> > >>>> I have FreeBSD 6.1 running on an IBM ThinkPad 600e, 64 MB RAM, PII 366 > >>>> MHZ. I have Gnome installed, and would like to "trim the fat" to get > >it > >>>> to run as fast and efficiently as possible. > >>> Drop Gnome! > >>> > >> > >> I was just thinking the same thing! > >> > >> There's a lot of other window manglers out there that are more > >> efficient than gnome. > > > >XFCE tries to be light-weight, yet full-featured. If a desktop manager > >is not needed, I would recommend a blackbox-like WM or WindowMaker. I > >also like wmii, but that's a matter of personal taste. > > > > I have always found that the original FVWM, v 1.24, is the leanest and most > easily configurable WM out there. I've used it on anything from 486SX to > P-4, and it does the job. My only complaint is that the maximize buttons > don't quite work. However, the ease of making menus and things like that > make it really shine in a lot of 'lean machine' apps. Is FVWM Gnome and KDE complient? IOW, do Gnome/KDE apps play-nice or work with a min of yelps to stderr? I'm still using CTWM which is very customizable, altho it takes know-how. I have every GUI app niced down to < -15, so on my slower systems things work fairly well. If you can figure out howto run Gnome with most things niced low, that mght help. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix